Ramirez and Ramirez

[Unregistered]

Here are the lengths they will go to to scam you - I received it today after they have phoned me many times - I of course will not be giving them any monies. Who can we report this to in Spain, is there a Law Society in Spain?






E-mail: info@specialist-lawyers.com
Web: www.specialist-lawyers.com







FACTURA DE PORFORMECEA


Claimants: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;
Case pending for: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;

Claimants demand the return of monies totalling £ 15,200.00

From: Bonus Vacations Direct known as the defendants.

Said claim corresponds to monies paid, plus all costs and compensation incurred during recovery against defendants.

Ramirez & Ramirez S.L. undertake to retain a fully qualified lawyer, to accept claimant’s case.

A provision of funds payable to Ramirez & Ramirez of 560.00 € (inclusive of 16% V.A.T.) will be applicable for this service plus 10% of any monies recovered through the courts of Spain.

Letters of reclamation will be issued to the defendants, allowing a time frame for an out of
court settlement.

Claimants will also receive copies of the letters of reclamation issued on their behalf and a full legal report.

For and on behalf of

Ramirez & Ramirez Legal Consultants

John Didcot
______________________________________
18/03/2010

Edif. Villa Blanca 1 – C, C/e Córdoba Nº 35
29640 Fuengirola, Málaga, Spain
CIF B-92785054
Tel.: 952-664151 Fax.: 952-468346

[Unregistered]

Here are the lengths they will go to to scam you - I received it today after they have phoned me many times - I of course will not be giving them any monies. Who can we report this to in Spain, is there a Law Society in Spain?






E-mail: info@specialist-lawyers.com
Web: www.specialist-lawyers.com







FACTURA DE PORFORMECEA


Claimants: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;
Case pending for: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;

Claimants demand the return of monies totalling £ 15,200.00

From: Bonus Vacations Direct known as the defendants.

Said claim corresponds to monies paid, plus all costs and compensation incurred during recovery against defendants.

Ramirez & Ramirez S.L. undertake to retain a fully qualified lawyer, to accept claimant’s case.

A provision of funds payable to Ramirez & Ramirez of 560.00 € (inclusive of 16% V.A.T.) will be applicable for this service plus 10% of any monies recovered through the courts of Spain.

Letters of reclamation will be issued to the defendants, allowing a time frame for an out of
court settlement.

Claimants will also receive copies of the letters of reclamation issued on their behalf and a full legal report.

For and on behalf of

Ramirez & Ramirez Legal Consultants

John Didcot

______________________________________
18/03/2010

Here are the lawyer details:

Edif. Villa Blanca 1 – C, C/e Córdoba Nº 35
29640 Fuengirola, Málaga, Spain
CIF B-92785054
Tel.: 952-664151 Fax.: 952-468346

Ilustre Colegio De Abogados De Malaga
Address:
Paseo de la Farola 13, 29016 Málaga
Tel: 0034 951 017 900-950
Fax: 0034 951 017 928
Email : webmaster@icamalaga.es
Our lawyers’ details are as follows;

Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol Lic Nº 5991
Doña Sara Lia Vilas Lic Nº 6539
Patricia Ramirez Clerides Lic Nº 6649

Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any queries.

Regards
John Didcot

[Windchime123]

My Father (aged 76) was contacted by someome at "Procall" a couple of weeks ago, saying that his reclaim certificate wasn't worth anything and they could get him his money back if he paid £250.00 and would have to go to Tenerife to collect the money, accomodation was paid for. They knew the exact amunt that was on his certificate, so he though it was genuine. He paid the money! We have sinced looked on the internet and found out that this a scam. He has sinced cancelled his credit card and is persuing to reclaim. He was contacted this week by Andrea Reed from Ramirez & Ramirez saying that they could help him get his money back, he did tell them that he was not paying any money and theys aid they would send him details of their firm. However there seemed to be a problem with the e-mails and apparently the e-mail they sent him kept "bouncing back" and could he e-mail them His e-mails to them have also "bounced back"!! Can anyone help, is this another scam? We are so unsure as to what to do next. Has anyone had the same experience? Thanks AJH

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My Father (aged 76) was contacted by someome at "Procall" a couple of weeks ago, saying that his reclaim certificate wasn't worth anything and they could get him his money back if he paid £250.00 and would have to go to Tenerife to collect the money, accomodation was paid for. They knew the exact amunt that was on his certificate, so he though it was genuine. He paid the money! We have sinced looked on the internet and found out that this a scam. He has sinced cancelled his credit card and is persuing to reclaim. He was contacted this week by Andrea Reed from Ramirez & Ramirez saying that they could help him get his money back, he did tell them that he was not paying any money and theys aid they would send him details of their firm. However there seemed to be a problem with the e-mails and apparently the e-mail they sent him kept "bouncing back" and could he e-mail them His e-mails to them have also "bounced back"!! Can anyone help, is this another scam? We are so unsure as to what to do next. Has anyone had the same experience? Thanks AJH

I could quote the same, almost word for word, except my husband is the one aged 74 contacted by some Irish female from Procall saying the same about the certificate and going to Tenerife to collect our money etc. Just pay for our accommodation (£259). We paid for accommodation but I managed to claim that back off our credit card. Now enter Stuart Billington for Ramirez and Ramirez just pay, somewhere in the region of £900, and be assured that you will get some £24,000 back (less 10% for the lawyers cut?) We are both pensioners who actually borrowed money to sell our timeshare - which of course cost us even more. We just wanted to get rid of paying annual maintenance fees. We are giving up at this point, having lost about £15,000 but if we go with Ramirez will we lose another £1,000 when we are still paying off the loan. And, you bet it won't be the last of it. Mr. Billington did tell me that if we had sold the original timeshare back to the golf club where it was, it would have only cost us about £80 in legal fees etc. Oh, how I wish ....... JBM

[Puddyone]

We were contacted by these people in Feb last year [2010] We agreed to let them fight for us to redeem the money that DGS Worldwide had promised us back in 2006/7. We paid them by credit card. They told us that this was to pay the Spanish Lawyers so that they could start proceedings against them. This year, we were told by Ramirez & Ramirez that the companies that they were chasing, they named about a dozen, kept changing the company name/s and that was why they couldn't persue them and that they also refused to settle out of court, so that now the only way to recover any money from them on our behalf was to summons them with a Denucia, this they said would compell them to pay up, BUT, it would cost us another 210 Euros!!! They did send us the documentation by email, and also a Letter of Refusal, if we wanted them to stop this action on our behalf. We sent the Letter of Refusal back, as we couldn't afford to spend anymore money on this. I do feel a bit of a fool for going along with this in the first place, but, I feel we had to cut our losses, and not throw good money after bad. These people must rely on people like us doing just that!!

Ann

[Unregistered]

We have been contacted by ramirez ramirez said they where trying to get as many people as posible to take the dwvc time share to court that we would get all are money back plus compensation all we had to do was send them copies of are agrements they were not asking for any money said when they won the case we would be invoiced but looking at this now what do we do????

[Unregistered]

I have been contacted 3 times in the last few days by Ramirez and Ramirez offering to get all my money back from Reclaim through a joint court action. I have been contacted so many times over the last 4 years that i recognise these scams immediately. I was caught the first time but never again.
The man calling me gave his name as David Potts telling me he was from a firm of legal consultants and the solicitors named are Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol No.5991,
Dona Sara Lia Viras No.6539 andPatricia Ramira Clerides No.6649.
Address Calle Cordoba 35,Edificio Villa Blanca 1-c,Fuengirola 29440, Malaga.
Hope this is of some use to you.These people are scum quite frankly and it is time they were stopped.

Dear Sir or Madam,

I've never heard of this law firm before.

You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

In short, it's the scam of the scam.

Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

Yours faithfully,
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

[Unregistered]

[ Contacted last evening by a well spoken LADY? who said she was investergating timeshere scams, I said we had been scam by ETO for around £800.00 she said she would send email claim form asking for all the paperwork relating to ETO and said they would try and get somr action . Email arrived this morning with Ramize ans Ramize googled it found your site . LUCKY ME BE warned

[Unregistered]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I've never heard of this law firm before.

You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

In short, it's the scam of the scam.

Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

Yours faithfully,
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

We were called about two days ago, and we were convinced by a woman, perfectly spoken in English, saying that my name and details had come up, and would we be interested in getting our money back, and who was the firm that we originally dealt with. We thought about this for a while, and we nearly didn't go through with it, as we had been cold-called before, and when they suggested fee for attending a meeting, here in the K, we said No. But, we were told by this woman, Georgina, that she could put our case to their lawyers, and she would get back to us later that day. Of cours she did, and she persuaded us to hand over payment of 560Euros on our credit card!! I had already sent by email our paperwork that we had with DGS Worldwide, and she said that the Euros were for a Retainer for their lawyers to go ahead with the work. She then rang us back to say that our Building Society had blocked the transaction, and would we ring our bank back and authorise the payment. She said that she had forgotten to tell me this at first, because she had forgotten that they still ask their clients to do this to prevent fraud! I was told by this Georgina that I would receive an email by today (February 12th 2010) I have not received anything as yet. I feel sick now, and wished I hadn't convinced my husband that I thought these seemed to be genuine.
Don't know whether to try and contact them by phone, tell them that we've changed our minds and would like our money back, what do you think??
The contact details I have are:Ramirez & Ramirez legal Consultants. TEl:0034 952 664151, Fax:0034 952 468346. Email:info@specialist-lawyers.com, and Web:www.specialist-lawyers.com.....

[Unregistered]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I've never heard of this law firm before.

You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

In short, it's the scam of the scam.

Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

Yours faithfully,
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

Georgina Dean 0034052664151