Ocean View Properties

Joey123 · 06-04-2009, 02:26 PM

why the meeting with Unico? If Unico are responsible (as Ricardo Miranda is behind this company, we are led to believe - although originally said to be a joint venture with Miranda and OVP and others) they need to give us the evidence to persue Miranda - if they give damn as they say they do. Of course, they are so deep down that hole, they are just trying to get out somehow. The answer is full co-operation, honesty and hold your hands up and help us trace any funds received and kept by Miranda & Sungolf as you say they have the money. if you prove that and help us with a claim against Sungolf that would help more than anything else (of course a full refund, interest and costs is even better but never going to occur). You know well Sungolf should not have any money at all - it would be illegal, hence the elaborate set up in the UK to take the deposits.

I hope the meeting will result in an estimated £24m being returned to the rightful owners!

Anyway, much has been said many times before of refunds, transfers etc.. .. I am afraid you have landed on the Go Straight to Jail card. Unforunately, is not NOW but later! You treated our money like monopoly money! Buy your way out of jail and give our money back, plus interest and costs!

Unregistered · 06-04-2009, 04:27 PM

OVP haven't shown any intention or are even interested in helping those cheated as far as I have seen?. They will just do what's required to try and pass the buck and get themselves off the hook, as they always have! I hope the net's closing at last though?

Unregistered · 06-06-2009, 12:25 AM

Has anyone any news about the meeting today? Unfortunately i had to work and will have to continue to work for 300 years because of these animals. I WILL dedicate my life to harassing people and getting answers. Joey Goodstitch and others are our leaders.

Unregistered · 06-06-2009, 02:08 PM

Hi

Has anyone got any news on the outcome from this meeting. I have a lot of knowledge on OVP and the characters as I was one of the early clients they roped into selling an apartment and whilst I am lucky I got a property....... after four years, I subsequently was duped into another on Manilva Beach. I dont know what is happening on this development as I went round it and it seems mothballed.

I am also confused as to whether I register as a creditor or not as the money that has disappeared could be classed as a fraud.

What is the latest on the Criminal action in the UK.

As i understand the key OVP guys are now looking at new ventures.....beware.

Joey123 · 06-06-2009, 02:48 PM

hello
I made a posting on EOS forum re the meeting - here it is. I hope it helps in some way:

Feedback from the meeting at The Insolvency Service for those who could not attend. Key points:

* The Insolvency Service WILL investigate the conduct of the directors and shadow directors (those who acted in the capacity as directors or (maybe - I'm not sure) held themselves out to be directors

* The vote on the appointment of the Liquidators was made. It was a simple monetery majority by the creditors that led to the apointment of Nick Wood and Ian Richardson of Grant Thornton. One is in London one is in Leeds (I think). A member of Mr Richardson's team can take calls 0207 7282651 - Sam - I think her name was. However, hold back for now, they have to have time to investigate.Their role is to recover funds and turn assets into cash to pay a dividend (eg 20p in the £) to the creditors at the end of the liquidation (I am not talking down to anyone, just not averyone will understand this process).

* DI Spears and his team's 'role (not DI Whitely - I know where you were going here - show some respect to these poeple whoever did the last post (ooovvvppp)- although I note the time as after the pubs had closed so you may not have been posting in fit state) is to investigate what happened and work with other agencies (including internationally with the SFO) the Ins Service and liquidators to recover funds and undertake criminal action if necessary. WHAT THEY DON'T need is mass calling of people. Report you case by telephone, if you feel you have been a victim of crime by OVP, and obtain your crime reference number.

* Still send your reports of your own dealings to the Ins Serv (especially matters of conduct of the directors and shaddow directors) and lodge your claims as creditors with the IS at Manchester (0161 234 8351). Also, send in reports (the same ones to the IS) to help the investigation if you have not done so to DI Andrew Spears (Staffordshire Economic Crime Unit ) BUT give them some breathing space to investigate. The investiagtion on 3 fronts (IS, Liquidators and police. It IS underway and IS being taken seriously)

* The creditors that came forward as of the 1 June cut-off date amounted to £42million. (I think was Sterling not EUROS).

* The was a creditor claim of circa £1m relating to Sean Woodhall's company/Worldwide Desinations - as he has died (I know) in a plane crash his interest will be liquidated for his estate so don't be too concerned. Although, a potential conflict of interest of the liquidator appointed is being looked at and if they find out there is conflict they will deal with that. However, initial assurances made are that there are none. It could be helpful even given the reported potential link with OVP in the past.

* a creditors committe will be formed (separate meeting) later to oversee the renumeration of the Liquidators

* I would like to say well done to the Dean Hamlin at the Insolvency Service. They have done well so far in what they state is a very large case. The OVP related developments from which there were claims from creditors were - EBCC, G of M, Vista Rocas, Tefedna Bay (Or Royal Maroc as previously known), and some others ( around 6 or 7 in total). I just asked around the room. There were a good 6 - 7 lever arch files of claimants.

* A thank-you should be made to a certain Police officer who helped get the criminal investigtion off the ground. I was pleased to have been able to personally thank him. You know who you are mate!

* I would say for now report yourself as creditors to Dean Hamilin, give your information to the police and also the liquidator. Leave them to investigate and get on with your lives for now as best as you can.

* I did approach a few people at the meeting to try to make contacts. I am sure may were sceptical of me and my motives so I apologise for that. Let me assure you, I am genuinly trying to help. I am trying to recover my funds and will to try to help you too, if I can.

* It was good to meet simimarly affected people for some mutual support and also to help with the fight for justice, return of money and to see them have their dodgy lifestyles well and truely curtailed (one day!). Mr V - good to talk to you - keep in touch! I will be in touch soon with those I discuss EBCC with. Mr W (and partner), D&H, BG etc

Try not to post for a while - leave this as the latest post for a while for people to read over the next few days as I think that may be the most helpful thing to do for now and is the most up-to-date information. You can PM me with questions altugh I will be off-line from 3.00 pm onward today.

Regards

Joey123

Unregistered · 06-06-2009, 08:02 PM

I invested punta perla, ricarda took that money as well. Perhaps some people can go to singing pig forum, as many people do not want to face the truth, we got scammed, let those investors know the truth, as when I tell them about Ricarda they stil beieve in the tooth fairy. Thanks maybe if someone who has lived this nightmare tells them, reality will hit.

Joey123 · 06-07-2009, 12:47 PM

it sure does not look good. they are still talking of construction. it is all rather odd, to say the least. The delays and false promises are staggering. Much like EBCC which has been rumbled (or OVP have been rumbled). I am wondering how RM is linked in with EBCC other than being the devolper via Sungolf.

Of course RM lies rather low!

Joey123