Ramirez and Ramirez

[Baileyslover]

I have just been contacted by a Debbie Reed from Frazier & ward. She told me my reclaim certificate was registered incorrectly so it was null in void.
She said I need to register with her company for £250 then I would be given a weeks accomadation in tenerife (for my inconveniance) to meet with a rep from frazier & ward so they can complete my reclaim properly and I can have 95% of the reclaim amount within 6 weeks or I can wait until the end date and have £100.
I am assuming that I will not get a penny back after the end date eeither way because I was conned in the first place.
When I go on holidays in the future I will not be hassled into buying anything else, I cannot believe how silly I've been.
Surely there is someone out there who can help us and stop these fraudsters conning naive people.
I never relized winning on a scratch card would be so expensive.
Has anyone ever received any money with reclaim/cashback?

can i pls ask you wen your date is up for you to claim your cashbk - ours is sept 11, we have been asked to do same as you but not told anything about getting money bk within 6 weeks.
My partner has literally just rang his bank to confirm that if we pay this money an its another scam we can get a refund from them. we are trying to decide wot to do for the best, contact me by private msge if you wish thanks Carol x

[Unregistered]

[ Contacted last evening by a well spoken LADY? who said she was investergating timeshere scams, I said we had been scam by ETO for around £800.00 she said she would send email claim form asking for all the paperwork relating to ETO and said they would try and get somr action . Email arrived this morning with Ramize ans Ramize googled it found your site . LUCKY ME BE warned

[Unregistered]

Here are the lengths they will go to to scam you - I received it today after they have phoned me many times - I of course will not be giving them any monies. Who can we report this to in Spain, is there a Law Society in Spain?






E-mail: info@specialist-lawyers.com
Web: www.specialist-lawyers.com







FACTURA DE PORFORMECEA


Claimants: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;
Case pending for: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;

Claimants demand the return of monies totalling £ 15,200.00

From: Bonus Vacations Direct known as the defendants.

Said claim corresponds to monies paid, plus all costs and compensation incurred during recovery against defendants.

Ramirez & Ramirez S.L. undertake to retain a fully qualified lawyer, to accept claimant’s case.

A provision of funds payable to Ramirez & Ramirez of 560.00 € (inclusive of 16% V.A.T.) will be applicable for this service plus 10% of any monies recovered through the courts of Spain.

Letters of reclamation will be issued to the defendants, allowing a time frame for an out of
court settlement.

Claimants will also receive copies of the letters of reclamation issued on their behalf and a full legal report.

For and on behalf of

Ramirez & Ramirez Legal Consultants

John Didcot
______________________________________
18/03/2010

Edif. Villa Blanca 1 – C, C/e Córdoba Nº 35
29640 Fuengirola, Málaga, Spain
CIF B-92785054
Tel.: 952-664151 Fax.: 952-468346

[Unregistered]

Here are the lengths they will go to to scam you - I received it today after they have phoned me many times - I of course will not be giving them any monies. Who can we report this to in Spain, is there a Law Society in Spain?






E-mail: info@specialist-lawyers.com
Web: www.specialist-lawyers.com







FACTURA DE PORFORMECEA


Claimants: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;
Case pending for: Mr Gordon Clarke & Mrs Alexandria Clarke;

Claimants demand the return of monies totalling £ 15,200.00

From: Bonus Vacations Direct known as the defendants.

Said claim corresponds to monies paid, plus all costs and compensation incurred during recovery against defendants.

Ramirez & Ramirez S.L. undertake to retain a fully qualified lawyer, to accept claimant’s case.

A provision of funds payable to Ramirez & Ramirez of 560.00 € (inclusive of 16% V.A.T.) will be applicable for this service plus 10% of any monies recovered through the courts of Spain.

Letters of reclamation will be issued to the defendants, allowing a time frame for an out of
court settlement.

Claimants will also receive copies of the letters of reclamation issued on their behalf and a full legal report.

For and on behalf of

Ramirez & Ramirez Legal Consultants

John Didcot

______________________________________
18/03/2010

Here are the lawyer details:

Edif. Villa Blanca 1 – C, C/e Córdoba Nº 35
29640 Fuengirola, Málaga, Spain
CIF B-92785054
Tel.: 952-664151 Fax.: 952-468346

Ilustre Colegio De Abogados De Malaga
Address:
Paseo de la Farola 13, 29016 Málaga
Tel: 0034 951 017 900-950
Fax: 0034 951 017 928
Email : webmaster@icamalaga.es
Our lawyers’ details are as follows;

Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol Lic Nº 5991
Doña Sara Lia Vilas Lic Nº 6539
Patricia Ramirez Clerides Lic Nº 6649

Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any queries.

Regards
John Didcot

[Unregistered]

We to have been contacted by Brian Croker from Ramirez & Ramirez saying their Company can get back money which was scammed from us some years ago. My husband spoke to him and gave him our e-mail address so he could send information to us. He asked us to send copies of the dealings we had with the company who defrauded us in the first place. Once bitten, twice shy, so I went on to the Internet to find out what I could about this Company. When he phoned again, I told him what I had found, and he was most indignant that I should expect this of him. He told me he was a Christian and would not defraud anyone under any circumstances. Like all these people he was very plausible, as were the people who defrauded us in the first place. Obviously, there is no way we would consider dealing with this Company, but I really do wonder who you can turn to in these instances. The Spanish Costas seem to be full of fraudsters, and it is surely about time something was done about these people. When I told this man I had found out their Company had only been operating since October 2009, he confirmed this was true and that they had taken over another Company who he had worked for for over 8 years. The Company was Key Property Town Advisory, which says it all, as they are dubious according to information found on the Internet.

[trevh]

I wish I had looked on this website in December, when I was contacted by Anna Higson
I have paid these people in 4 installments the 1146 euros and have sent back the contracts so I should be expecting a written legal report back in 50 days to inform me about the case against Incentive Leisure Group, DWVC, Timelinx and Cashback Sales and Administration SL.
I will let you know how I get on, but I'm not holding my breath!

[Baileyslover]

thats who our case is with Trev, Timelinx, DWVC etc, pls do keep us informed how you get on - good luck

[Unregistered]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I've never heard of this law firm before.

You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

In short, it's the scam of the scam.

Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

Yours faithfully,
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

Georgina Dean 0034052664151

[Unregistered]

Hi all - seems they are still at it as i was called today with an amazing offer to recover previous rip off money to "Dandelion Investments".
They are very convincing but as all the above warnings go cold callers with your details, especially one you do not recognise are 100% scammers.
Price has reduced though, as they want £110 for translation fees.
Due another call from ms-mrs-miss dean tomorrow and will be delighted to keep her talking to at least keep their phone bills high and try to keep them going for a few days of more calls to get as much info as i can.

Will post details tomorrow night.

Cheers

[Unregistered]

Hi, I was contacted by Mick Gofton from Ramirez and Ramirez. I was told to fax over my documentation to him, including proof of payment and the Cash Back Europe certificate. When I spoke to him, I explained that after having paid out money to Club Class Concierge two years ago, to get rid of a timeshare, I was not planning to pay out any more money. He said this action would not cost me anything. I was just about to fax my paperwork over, but thought I would google the company first. Am I about to be asked for more money?? If so I will tell him his fortune!! Many Thanks.