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  1. #21
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    We have received a cold call call from this firm Ramirez Legal Specialists. We have emailed all the information they asked for about our holiday club. I spoke to Anthony Ward yesterday and today had a call from John Didcott Head Legal Advisor asking me for £495 to have paperwork translated for the courts (Malaga Crown Court) and we will receive five thousand one hundred pounds back from our claim. We were also told that the lawyers have paid all the legal fees and we would only have to pay for translating documents. We will not be paying this as I think it is a scam!
    Both these men spoke very good English as they told me the company is in Malaga.

    From a very suspicious couple,
    Linda and David Warren.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lawbird Lawyer View Post
    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I've never heard of this law firm before.

    You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

    Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

    How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

    If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

    In short, it's the scam of the scam.

    Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

    Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

    We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

    Yours faithfully,
    Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

  2. #22
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    Angry Scammed

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I have also been contacted by Ramirez & Ramirez whose details are:

    Reg No. B - 927 850 54
    C/Cordoba 35, Edf Villa Blanca 1oC,
    Fuengirola, 29640, Malaga, Spain
    Tel: 0034 952 664 151 Fax: 0034 952 468 346

    Email: info@specialist-lawyers.com
    Web: www.specialistic-lawyers.com
    ---------------------------------------------

    I was contacted by a Rubecca Harrison who asked for details about my investment in Alvita Holidays/Club Class Conciergen; which was a scam. I sent over a copy of the papers I had and they said they would contact me the following day after it had been discussed with the lawyers. True enough the following day a Mr. Alan James (lawyer?) contacted me and informed me that I will not receive my cashback from my timeshare company, that the case to recover it will be closed soon and that I need to get all the details to him ASAP.

    Not sure if this is a scam but having read the previous Messages I feel it is. So they won't be getting any money from me.

    Can somebody not do anything about all these poxy companies ripping us off.


    Scammed i also have had a phone call from DAVID POTTS representing ramirez and ramirez
    i have just sent my reclaim voucher and was hoping to receive some money fat chance now
    we were with holiday warehouse and club class but i asked him where he got my telephone
    number from as we have moved he said FREEDOM something probably bought
    Is there anything we as a group from GB can do between us

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    I have just had a call from an Andrea Reed from Ramirez and Ramirez, concerning money we had payed to DWVC, (which we are sure we will never see again), and how Ramirez and Ramirez are trying to help peolpe get their money back from disreputable Timeshare companies. There seem to be a lot of these so called "lawyers" trying to con people into parting with yet more money in the vain hope of getting some of theri initilal "investment" back. We always Google these legal companies, and, to date, they all seem to be conmen. I even told Andrea that there were a number of "lawyers" trying to scam people further and she agrees that it was an awful thing for them to be doing! I can't wait to receive her follow up call in a couple of weeeks!!!

  4. #24
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    I have been contacted 3 times in the last few days by Ramirez and Ramirez offering to get all my money back from Reclaim through a joint court action. I have been contacted so many times over the last 4 years that i recognise these scams immediately. I was caught the first time but never again.
    The man calling me gave his name as David Potts telling me he was from a firm of legal consultants and the solicitors named are Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol No.5991,
    Dona Sara Lia Viras No.6539 andPatricia Ramira Clerides No.6649.
    Address Calle Cordoba 35,Edificio Villa Blanca 1-c,Fuengirola 29440, Malaga.
    Hope this is of some use to you.These people are scum quite frankly and it is time they were stopped.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lawbird Lawyer View Post
    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I've never heard of this law firm before.

    You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

    Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

    How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

    If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

    In short, it's the scam of the scam.

    Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

    Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

    We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

    Yours faithfully,
    Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

  5. #25
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    My Husband & myself have been contacted by Susan Lace & Allan James from Ramirez Ramirez over the last few weeks and have had the same response as most of other remarks. We have been defrauded twice over resale of timeshare and almost duped by these laweyers if it was not for this forum. Many thanks

  6. #26
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    Angry Ramirez & Ramirez

    We too have been contacted on 3 occassions by these people - the last time being late yesterday evening. After being scammed by a timeshare shark (F H Publishing) we were very dubious and (happlily) have found this thread. Rubecca has asked that we fax over all paperwork regarding our scam and she would put the ball in motion to try and get our money back.

    After the previous advice on this site, I will be taking this matter to a local Trading Standards agency to see if anything can be done about these kinds of people.

  7. #27
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    Angry Worried "Scammed" again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawbird Lawyer View Post
    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I've never heard of this law firm before.

    You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?

    Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.

    How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.

    If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.

    In short, it's the scam of the scam.

    Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?

    Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.

    We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.

    Yours faithfully,
    Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt
    We were called about two days ago, and we were convinced by a woman, perfectly spoken in English, saying that my name and details had come up, and would we be interested in getting our money back, and who was the firm that we originally dealt with. We thought about this for a while, and we nearly didn't go through with it, as we had been cold-called before, and when they suggested fee for attending a meeting, here in the K, we said No. But, we were told by this woman, Georgina, that she could put our case to their lawyers, and she would get back to us later that day. Of cours she did, and she persuaded us to hand over payment of 560Euros on our credit card!! I had already sent by email our paperwork that we had with DGS Worldwide, and she said that the Euros were for a Retainer for their lawyers to go ahead with the work. She then rang us back to say that our Building Society had blocked the transaction, and would we ring our bank back and authorise the payment. She said that she had forgotten to tell me this at first, because she had forgotten that they still ask their clients to do this to prevent fraud! I was told by this Georgina that I would receive an email by today (February 12th 2010) I have not received anything as yet. I feel sick now, and wished I hadn't convinced my husband that I thought these seemed to be genuine.
    Don't know whether to try and contact them by phone, tell them that we've changed our minds and would like our money back, what do you think??
    The contact details I have are:Ramirez & Ramirez legal Consultants. TEl:0034 952 664151, Fax:0034 952 468346. Email:info@specialist-lawyers.com, and Web:www.specialist-lawyers.com.....

  8. #28
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    I too have this week been contacted by an ever-so plausible chap with a Lancashire accent (as had several of the bogus resale company reps who have called me since I was first scammed back in 2008). Such a nice man, offering to help in any way possible and although he couldn't promise anything, he was confident his "lawyer" chums could recoup at least some of our money. As in that previous post, I also checked out the address in the follow-up e-mail, and can confirm it is an apartment block above a Mercadona supermarket. Not quite what you'd expect for the offices of such an "eminent" law firm as Ramirez and Ramirez.

    Coincidentally - or perhaps not, reading the previous posts - I was also contacted last year by "two" of the firms listed above i.e. Legal Advice Council, who seemed to have forgotten that they had already spoken to me under the guise of First Legal Services. They too appear to originate in Lancashire, and seem to have been outlawed by the Financial Services Agency prior to moving to Spain. So - beware the cold caller with the funny voice!
    Not that I've anything against Lancastrians, you understand (well actually I have, coming from the right side of the Pennines)

    Thanks for all the info, folks - I'm quite looking forward to my next chat with R & R

  9. #29
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    The guy behind this company is a crook named FABIAN RAMIREZ MARCELO. He's owned several other boiler rooms from where he's ripped off thousands of timeshare owners. He's also the company director for FUENGIROLA SERVICIOS 2002 SL (aka Servicios Fuengirola 2002) and KEY PROPERTIES TOWN ADVISORY SL. I cannot understand why someone like this hasn't been thrown into jail after 8 years of scamming people. Is there no justice in this bloody country?

  10. #30
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    Many thanks to this forum for opening my eyes and stopping me wasting more money trying to recoup some that's been conned from us. Georgina (Ramirez and Ramirez) phoned me yesterday, where DO they get our telehone nos and info from??? and having e-mailed, is phoning me tomorrow for all details of companies who have already duped us. She sounded so sincere, I really thought this was different but reading your comments realise it's yet another scam. Thanks, this really needs stopping.

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