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  1. #181
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    Mike, I would not say that Ramirez Ramirez are a scam, I would say that they are THE scam.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Rogers View Post
    I have a contract with Ramirez & Ramirez since 23 July 2010 R&R 108328 that cost me £960 pounds I have now been asked to pay a further £275 pounds for Ramirez & Ramirez to procure a Poculator to act on their behalf as , they say, to prosecute the Incentive Leisure Group Limited that sold me the Cash Back agreement on 24/02/2005 without any cooling off period! This firm went into liquidation during 2009 and has now, I am told, "set up" under a different name!
    Should I continue with paying Ramirez & Ramirex further monies or are they a scam? I have contacted the European Consumer Centre who tell me they have received a lot of complaints but they are not fraudulent. Regards Mike Rogers
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    Thumbs down Mrs Patricia Harris

    I was contacted by RAMIREZ & RAMIREZ last week about our Loyalty Reward scheme by 'MARION' who sounded very Genuine and told me all about this pending court case to get us all our money back!! I was then passed on to JOAN McCOLGAN, Legal Advisor.
    I told them I am a Pensioner and living on just my pension here in Spain but they still wanted me to pay €600 up front for 'TRANSLATION' fees and as soon as they have my money in their Acc they can proceed with the case! I asked if they were just waiting for me as I understood that the case was on behalf of a group of people! I then noticed after that that there were a few mishaps in what she said to me, I then decided to check them up on the net and found quite a few different sites like yours where they were being run down left right and centre. Thankyou everyone who has contributed to this site because you have just saved me a months pension, I am not paying anything up front. If they want to get my money back and have the fees afterwards OK but not up front!!

    "Unfortunately in the legal department at the moment Mr James is on compassionate leave as his baby is ill and Mr Clark as I said in the earlier email has had to return to England. because of a family problem," This from one of the first emails from:- clientliaison@keypropertyadvisory.com My next Email was from 'Specialist Lawyers' from Joan McColgan!!!! I give up, We live quietly here in the Spanish Mountains on €650 per month and will carry on that way. ph

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    Default Ramirez & Ramirez

    Between two and four years ago Ramirez & Ramirez took approximately £500.00 from me for representing me in a time share sale claim in a Spanish court.
    I have heard nothing from them since.
    Greenges are offering a similar service. Can they be trusted or are they another dubious outfit?

    Mike Fortescue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Between two and four years ago Ramirez & Ramirez took approximately £500.00 from me for representing me in a time share sale claim in a Spanish court.
    I have heard nothing from them since.
    Greenges are offering a similar service. Can they be trusted or are they another dubious outfit?

    Mike Fortescue
    It's all a scam, don't touch them with a barge pole!

  5. #185
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    Default I was not fooled

    I have been contacted by phone by this firm (Ramirez & Ramirez - Specialist Lawyers) over the last few months and have hesitated to proceed with a claim but verbally agreed. A very soft spoken, courteous and eloquent sounding woman continued to phone over the ensuing weeks and I kept saying I was too busy to deal with it at the moment.
    Upon the verbal agreement They emailed me after a while with some forms and requested an "up-front" payment of £290 as the procurator's fee. Having been caught out and "scammed" before, I was very cautious of this.
    She again phoned me on 19th April 2013 to say that they urgently need the "agreement" part of the email to be returned together with the money by Monday (22nd April 2013) if I wished my claim to proceed. They are clever b*****ds as they sound so genuine and especially with this woman as their contact! I told her that I never part with money as an "up-front payment" having been caught before. She took it in her stride and did not try to persuade me to continue and she suggested that I complete the letter of refusal in the email and post it off. I shall hang on to it for a few days to see if they "chase" it up as I do not feel that I have to confirm my refusal in writing and pay postage for the privilege. I am unable to see why they cannot take the procurator fee from any awarded compensation when (and if) the case is won. I have since typed in both Ramirez & Ramirez and Specialist Lawyers into my search bar but nothing comes up of any note not even from links in the listings. I am unable to locate a website! Very suspicious I thought!
    It is very fortunate that there are sites such as this on the internet so that we can see what sort of people these are and resist their scams.

  6. #186
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    Default KPTA Ramirez Ramirez

    Dear Sir, I have just come across your excellent forum following research into Ramirez y Ramirez as successors to KPTA, having recently been , I think, extremely gullible in forwarding money on the promise of a refund of a holiday club membership.

    In this connection I attach a pdf of information received purporting to prove details of their Spanish lawyers, which I hope will be of interest to yourselves.

    KPTA 2.jpg

    Yours

    Robert Ballantyne

  7. #187
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    I bet her name was Gail Hughes???. Yes she is very plausible, as is her associate Maria Girton.

    Strange that all their communication is by telephone even replies to specific queries. MMHH no paper trail?

  8. #188
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    Hello Boabby50

    Thank you for posting. The man behind KPTA and Ramirez and Ramirez (plus other companies with similar activity), Mr Marcelo Fabian Ramirez, has been operating these fraudulent schemes for more than 10 years with total impunity, and will continue to do so until he swindles the wrong person or someone decides to report him to the authorities. In my opinion, doing so in Spain will probably be a waste of time. However, reporting him in the UK can prove useful (his case is not much different from that of Tony Muldoon.

    I recommend reporting this fraud through http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/.

    Kind regards

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