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  1. #21
    marta@lawbird.com
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    Hi,

    New Mexico and California are not considered in the civil code as Spanish former colonies. Also note that the ability to obtain citizenship via bloodline goes back two generations. Either one of your grandparents or parents would have needed to be Spaniard.

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    Hi Marta, My grandfather, Ramon Lopez-Pozas was spanish, born in the philippines to a spanish general( he has a street in Madrid named after him General Lopez-Pozas) who was in charge of the province of Cebu when spain held the philippines. He left the philippines with his father when spain ceded control to the United States. He came back to the philippines in 1918 with some people from Tabacalera company which was a tabacco company. He then married my grandmother and bore my father, Jose Thomas Lopez-Pozas and my aunt, Ma Carmen Thomas Lopez-Pozas. Last year i went to the spanish embassy hoping to apply for spanish citizenshiip but was told by a filipina in charge of applicants that i had to have proof that my father renounced his spanish citizenship before i was born in 1951 in order for that to happen. She showed me a card file that showed that my grandfather had entered the philippines in 1918 with a certain document(not a passport) but that he was a citizen. The card also had my fathers name on it with a passport number which was issued in 1946 right after world war 2 (most documents-birth certificates,marriage certificates were destroyed during the second world war). I told that what she said did not make any sense. If my father renounced his citizenship before i was born then i was not a spanish citizen. She said 'basta' which infuriated me and i asked if i could talk to anyone else and she said no so i left since it was useless( the consulate where we met puts too much power in this woman). Could you clarify this for me? I also have a brother and two sisters.The elder sister and i are both listed as spanish citizens in our birth certificates although we were never registered with the spanish embassy. My grandfather passed away in 1960.

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    Hola Migo! Have you ever heard of TNT? I recommend you get to Spain on your student visa, then go TNT. I've heard of people having success that way. But in the end if they catch you, don't claim immunity because you're scared of abu sayyaf or anything like that. They take that S$%T seriously!! LOL!

  4. #24
    Cielito
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    Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone can answer this for me cause I've been very confused. I am 22, I was born in the states in Seattle. My Dad was born in California but he was Puerto Rican, his Mom (my grandma) was born in Puerto Rico in 1934. I was trying to track down my great grandparents because I know they were born in PR as well but the problem is... everyone in this situation is deceased, my dad, my grandma and my great grandparents... also all of the relationships are bad... really bad so I don't know much about anyone but my dad and my grandma. Anyway, I've been looking into Spanish citizenship lately and wondered if there was any way I could go through my grandma?

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    arashovski
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    Dear Madam/Sir,

    Is that possible for a third country nationality which has been studying in Hungary for last 3 years and has schengen visa to get spanish permanent residency by buying property?
    If its true please give me some information?
    Thanks in advance

    Regards,

    Arashovski

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cielito View Post
    Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone can answer this for me cause I've been very confused. I am 22, I was born in the states in Seattle. My Dad was born in California but he was Puerto Rican, his Mom (my grandma) was born in Puerto Rico in 1934. I was trying to track down my great grandparents because I know they were born in PR as well but the problem is... everyone in this situation is deceased, my dad, my grandma and my great grandparents... also all of the relationships are bad... really bad so I don't know much about anyone but my dad and my grandma. Anyway, I've been looking into Spanish citizenship lately and wondered if there was any way I could go through my grandma?

    I'm not sure about iberoamericans but I am very familiar with hispano-pacific islanders. In those cases you need to be born in the country designated by Spain for accelerated repatriation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raylopez_pozas View Post
    Hi Marta, My grandfather, Ramon Lopez-Pozas was spanish, born in the philippines to a spanish general( he has a street in Madrid named after him General Lopez-Pozas) who was in charge of the province of Cebu when spain held the philippines. He left the philippines with his father when spain ceded control to the United States. He came back to the philippines in 1918 with some people from Tabacalera company which was a tabacco company. He then married my grandmother and bore my father, Jose Thomas Lopez-Pozas and my aunt, Ma Carmen Thomas Lopez-Pozas. Last year i went to the spanish embassy hoping to apply for spanish citizenshiip but was told by a filipina in charge of applicants that i had to have proof that my father renounced his spanish citizenship before i was born in 1951 in order for that to happen. She showed me a card file that showed that my grandfather had entered the philippines in 1918 with a certain document(not a passport) but that he was a citizen. The card also had my fathers name on it with a passport number which was issued in 1946 right after world war 2 (most documents-birth certificates,marriage certificates were destroyed during the second world war). I told that what she said did not make any sense. If my father renounced his citizenship before i was born then i was not a spanish citizen. She said 'basta' which infuriated me and i asked if i could talk to anyone else and she said no so i left since it was useless( the consulate where we met puts too much power in this woman). Could you clarify this for me? I also have a brother and two sisters.The elder sister and i are both listed as spanish citizens in our birth certificates although we were never registered with the spanish embassy. My grandfather passed away in 1960.
    Wow RayLopez!! Calle del General López Pozas is a well known road and General López Pozas is in the history books in Spain. I think even current attorney general Cándido Conde-Pumpido has mentioned him. If anyone could gain an exception, it could be your grandfather!! Good luck!

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    dear marta,

    I am non European but have long term residency EU in Hungary i would like to move to Spain and get marriage and have residency and nationality
    is it effect the process of residency if i show to police station that i have European Union residency in Hungarian and how long it will take to have residency?
    would you be so kind tell me how many residency we have and which i have to apply that can help me for my nationality by marriage?
    thanks a lot
    wait for replay

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    Dear Shajar,

    Those individuals holding a long term residency status in another EU country can enter Spain without a visa and spend 6 months in the country. If you are seeking residency in Spain, you will have to apply for a work and residence permit at the corresponding immigration office while on a regular status in Spain. If the application is related to a salaried work and residence permit, you will have to provide with a work contract and a certificate issued by the unemployment office that certifies there were no unemployed Spanish residents available to take the job; that is, that the current employemnt situation in Spain will be considered. These permits are rarely granted these days due to the high unemployment rate in Spain. If the work permit you need is related to a self employed activity, you will have to provide with a business plan and proof of sufficient funds available to invest ( currently set around 100.000 Euros ).

    You mention that you may also get married, but do not specify the nationality of your partner. If he/she is an EU citizen residing in Spain, you could apply for a Residence card as a relative to an UE citizen once married. If he/she is an non EU citizen with legal residency in Spain, you would then be able to apply for a family reunion permit once married. The validity of each permit varies; five years in the first case and, in the second case, it will depend on the validity and type of residence permit your partner holds.

    Generally speaking, Spanish Citizenship can be applied for after 10 years of legal residency in Spain. This period is reduced in the event you become a relative of a Spanish citizen or meet other specific requirements ( Latin american origins, born in Spain, etc ).

    As you can see there are various options for residency depending on your personal circumstances and future plans in Spain, so I recommend you to get the legal advice of an immigration expert that can assist in deciding which type of permit application suits your specific needs and how to start the process.

    Please feel free to contact me by e-mail by clicking on my profile if you wish to discuss your particular case.

    Regards,
    Patricia Martin
    Immigration Consultant at Lawbird | Contact Me
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    Hello Arashovski,

    Buying property in Spain does not grant the right to residency per se. You would still have to file a residence application form. The fact of holding property in Spain supports an application, mostly Non Lucrative residence applications ( right to reside but not to work ) but will not be a sole requirement.

    Permanent residency is not granted immediately, even if you have lived with a valid residence permit in another UE country; you would have to spend at least 5 years in Spain on a legal status to be able to apply for a long stay permit.

    If you let me know more about your profile I will be able to recommend you how to seek residency in Spain.

    Please feel free to contact me by e-mail by clicking on my profile if you wish.

    Regards,
    Patricia Martin
    Immigration Consultant at Lawbird | Contact Me
    Check My Profile

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