Has anyone had dealings with a law firm based in Malaga, Ramirez & Ramirez?
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Has anyone had dealings with a law firm based in Malaga, Ramirez & Ramirez?
I had a call from these people and was suspicious so I am now ,like you trying to find out more about them, If there is any such firm
We are receiving a large number of emails enquiring about this 'law firm'. Apparently they are mass cold calling timeshare owners offering legal representation to recover funds. Although we have no details yet about this organisation, we can safely assume it is nothing but another scam of the dozens currently active.
For further information, please read this thread:
Public Warning.-Scammers passing themselves off as Spanish lawyers and law firms
Dear Sir or Madam,
I've never heard of this law firm before.
You write you are receiving cold-calls from them?
Legitimate Spanish law firms never do this.
How did they obtain your contact details? Your personal details are protected by Spain's Data Protection Act.
If they have these details it's because they purchased the data base of some timeshare company where you invested/were scammed. It is well-known these data bases are being continously (mis)sold in the black market amongst scammers who then set-up bogus "law firms" and then make cold-calls to the UK or elsewhere offering "group litigation" against the scammers in exchange of thousands of euros. These litgation procedures are never successful and those who pay for them are never returned their investments nor the "legal" (scam) fees paid.
In short, it's the scam of the scam.
Are they offering you a "group" legal action (law suit) against timeshare companies in which you've invested?
Have you spoken to one of their registered lawyers? Do you have the name, surname of this lawyer? If you can PM me the details of one of their lawyers.
We will look into it for you. We will post our findings on this thread.
Yours faithfully,
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt
Dear Sir or Madam,
Further to your query on “Ramirez & Ramirez law firm” we’ve made some interesting discoveries.
Their website is both in Spanish and in English. Each has their own internet domains.
1. First of all the Spanish website itself, “abogadosespecialistas dot es” was registered on the 20th August 2009. So it’s only three months old.
2. The English website, “specialists-lawyers dot com” was registered on the 21st October 2009. A couple of weeks old.
Domain Name: SPECIALIST-LAWYERS.COM
Registrant: -personal contact details deleted for privacy reasons-
Creation Date: 21-Oct-2009
Expiration Date: 21-Oct-2010
3. The person listed as director of Ramirez and Ramirez Abogados additionally appears as administrator on the following companies, all of which have a long history and ring the bell. Just google them.
At best they are dubious (KPTA) and at worst they are simply, erm to put it mildly, very dubious (Fuengirola Servicios 2002, S.L.):
a) KEY PROPERTIES TOWN ADVISORY SL (AKA as KPTA)
b) FUENGIROLA SERVICIOS 2002 SL
c) RAMIREZ & RAMIREZ ABOGADOS SL
4. On the first company, we already had a thread in our forum on “Key Properties Town Advisory” (KPTA or KPA):
http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/foru...read.php?t=698
The European Consumer Authorities for Spain, located in Madrid, to whom I personally spoke over the phone on KPTA, were very unhappy with their behavior to the point they have their name listed down as a warning to consumers on the front of their webpage. It is highly significant that the only company they have listed is precisely KPTA as can be read on their website in English: http://cec.consumo-inc.es/
Furthermore, the European Consumer Authorities have even written a PDF document warning on the activities of KPTA: http://cec.consumo-inc.es/cec/Ultima...tyAdvisory.pdf
5. As for “FUENGIROLA SERVICIOS 2002 SL” you will find this company listed in multiple timeshare blacklists.
Unsurprisingly, “FUENGIROLA SERVICIOS 2002 SL” are not included in the black list provided by "Ramirez & Ramirez Abogados, S.L." as can be read on their website which happens to include hundreds of well-known timeshare scam companies.
Just google them. E.g. http://www.timesharecouncil.eu/#F
They offered through cold-calls to take legal action (group actions) on behalf of those foreigners who were afflicted by timeshare-related scams in Spain. It is still unclear from where they obtained their client's contact details to make these cold-calls. It is suspected, although unproven, that it was the time-share companies themselves which sold or provided them the contact details. Somehow the contact details of thousands of scammed timeshare buyers was passed on from the timeshare companies onto FUENGIROLA SERVICIOS 2002, SL.
6. The last one, the newest company, is the “law firm” on which you are querying. He appears at the Company’s House as the sole administrator of “Ramirez & Ramirez Abogados, S.L.”. This company was trading formerly under the name "Legal Specialists Advisory Service SL" and they changed their name over to "Ramirez and Ramirez Abogados SL" on the 23rd September 2009.
On checking Spain’s Lawyer’s data base he does not appear as a registered lawyer to practice, which is never a good sign.
We repeat again as per all our legal articles and posts, that under new legislation, you must be a registered lawyer to own a law firm in Spain. Not to mention that only registered lawyers have Professional Indemnity Insurance available in case of malpractice or negligence.
In fact, all legitimate law firms in Spain trade as S.L.P. (Sociedad Limitada Profesional) and not as S.L.'s, in compliance with the newly passed regulation.
7. Funnily enough, on their recently created website, they denounce other dubious Spanish “law firms” which have been regulars over the last months in our own forum, such as Legal Advice Counsel or First Legal Services. I guess it’s a small world after all.
I leave you and everyone else to draw your own conclusions given the track record of whose behind all three companies.
Yours faithfully,
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt
N.B. Friday 2nd July 2010
Just to clarify on my three posts on this thread (post 4, 5 and 7).
I have never written, said or labelled "RamÃ*rez and RamÃ*rez Abogados, S.L.", or its members or its corporate activities as "fraudulent", as a "scam" or as anything else. That has been written and concluded by other posters on this and other threads. What I've clearly written is a reply to the original poster's queries, posts 1 and 2 on this thread, on whether this company was in fact a law firm. And the gist of my reply on post 5, following research, was that it was not a law firm following what I write above.
If posters on this and other threads have jumped to conclusions labelling "RamÃ*rez and RamÃ*rez Abogados, S.L.", its members and/or its corporate activities as "cheats", "fraudsters", "scammers" or whatever they will, please bear in mind they are taking responsibility for their own words, posts and conclusions. It was never my intention to label this company or its members or its activities as such.
I will not be held accountable for what other people write or conclude on this thread or in any other thread.
As I clearly wrote above I did not draw any conclusions on them, much less label them or their corporate activity in any manner whatsoever, leaving readers to reach their own conclusions.
I had a call from a representitive of this 'company' called Gareth Fletcher. He knew quite a lot of information about the company I had sold the timeshare too DWVC and is supposed to be e-mailing me today
Dear Sir or Madam,
Believe us when we write that we are highly reluctant to engage in fights or public slagging matches with any company. But what we just cannot do is stand idly whilst we receive daily emails from grannys who are 80 years old and who have been cheated out of their lives savings by unscrupulous timeshare companies and who may yet be being conned again by other outfits.
We'll just quote what we've written on companies that follow this same modus operandi. In the more than ten years we've been around all companies that followed this procedure have turned out to be scams, without exception:
Yours faithfully,Quote:
List of Bogus Spanish Law Firms
We have compiled a list of such bogus law firms. They claim to be lawyers or legitimate Spanish law firms when in fact they are not. Clients are being continously misled to hire them thinking they are retaining the services of properly registered Spanish lawyers when it's not the case. These companies are giving legitimate Spanish law firms and lawyers a bad name.
Some of these unregulated companies go as far as having a completely legitimate appearance: they have incorporated a Spanish Limited Liability Company (SL), they have a neat profesionally laid out website, they are actually renting some commercial premises, they have multiple workers under payroll working as commission-driven "teleoperators" doing the cold-calling, they file taxes regularly etc. It's often fairly hard for laymen to distinguish them from a legitimate law firm.
Nigerian bogus law firms are the ones easiest to spot and they are always scams. They only have a website and send letters, e-mails or cold-call you. Their command of English is flawless. They do not incorporate companies, nor rent premises, nor hire workers.
Non-nigerian outfits are trickier to spot. They share the same modus operandi and always have Brisith or Irish citizens involved (to build rapport) who do the cold-calling of their fellow countrymen fleecing them: they will cold-call you out-of-the-blue offering you "group or class actions" against the timeshare companies in which you've invested. You ought to be fully aware that the person with whom you are dealing and entrusting them your funds are not registered lawyers. They will identify themselves as Paralegals, Legal Advisors, Senior Legal Advisors, Legal Executives etc.
In the ten years our website has been running all "law firms" that followed this modus operandi of cold-calling clients offering litigation have turned out to be scams. For some bizarre reason a great deal of these "law firms" are located in Fuengirola, Málaga Province. Which out of sheer coincidence just happens to be the same town in which the majority of these timeshare-related scams are also located. They also happen to share the same data base of clients. Again, just coincidence.
What should raise the alarm bells is just how on earth did these "law firms" get hold of your contact details (name, surname, UK address, e-mail, phone number, name of of the timeshare company in which you invested, the exact amount which you invested etc.)? This information can only be provided or disclosed by the timeshare company that scammed you in the first place. It is clearly a breach of Spain's Data Protection Act. It is not surprising you will be targeted by different "law firms" within the same year poking you to take legal action against the timeshare companies which fleeced you. They seemingly share the same databases as of the dubious timeshare companies.
Legitimate Spanish law firms never cold-call people. And the reason is simple, they lack your contact details unless you give it to them. Which is why you must mistrust always any phone calls from the UK or from Spain offering you out-of-the-blue to take "class actions" or "group actions" against timeshare companies. Ask yourself why and how do these people have your contact and investment details.
Legitimate Spanish law firms, in compliance with new regulation that was passed on 2007, have to trade statutorily as S.L.P.'s (Sociedad Limitada Profesional, or SLP). The owner of a Spanish law firm must be a lawyer. 75% of the share ownership must be owned by qualified lawyers. You should be very wary of any law firm located in Spain which is not trading as a registered S.L.P. This can easily be checked at the Spanish Companies' House. You should be very wary of "law firms" trading as S.L.'s whose sole or joint administrator are not registered lawyers. Those who are not registered to practice Law cannot call themselves "lawyers"; you have to be registered to practice law in one of Spain's Law Societies to address yourself as a "lawyer". These companies are often scams.
Bottomline, to put it simply, if a Spanish law firm is trading as an S.L.P. you have 100% guarantee that you are dealing with properly qualified registered lawyers (who will have Professional Indemnity Insurance against which you can claim in the event of negligence or malpractice). However, if you deal with "law firms" that trade as S.L. or S.L.U. you do not have this guarantee, and quite often they are not lawyers nor legitimate law firms, albeit scammers.
As a final word of caution, do not be fooled by a company that is trading which has the word "Abogados" (lawyers, in Spanish) in its name, i.e. Perez and Perez Abogados SL. This means nothing.
A company included in the list herewith doesn't necessarily equate to them being scammers. The companies listed are only those that try to pass themselves off as legitimate Spanish law firms or else offer legal services, even if outsourced, when legally they can not. Which is why they are labelled as bogus law firms because they often mislead clients (mostly from the UK and Irish) into thinking they are hiring a legitimate Spanish law firm when it's not the case.
After receiving several phone calls from these people wanting to get my money back from a timeshare and cashback scheme I received the following information (among other things) in an e-mail from them:-
Reg Nº B – 927 850 54
C/ Cordoba 35, Edf Villa Blanca 1ºC
Fuengirola, 29640, Málaga, Spain
Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol Lic Nº 5991, Doña Sara Lia Vilas Lic Nº 6539 and Patricia Ramirez Clerides Lic Nº 6649 of the Illustrious Official College of Law of Málaga
They are contracted by Ramirez & Ramirez., based in Calle Cordoba 35, Edif Villa Blanca 1 C, Fuengirola, Málaga.
They deal with claims on behalf of the clients of Ramirez & Ramirez S.L. including all legalities connected with cases associated with the Timeshare Industry.
Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol Lic Nº 5991
Doña Sara Lia Vilas Lic Nº 6539
Patricia Ramirez Clerides Lic Nº 6649
TEL 952 664 151
FAX 952 468 346
Are these people genuine or am I being scammed again?
Hi Worksop1
I have already reported all these companies to the Malaga Law Association, and it is their duty now to report them to the police.
Regards
I have also been contacted by Ramirez & Ramirez whose details are:
Reg No. B - 927 850 54
C/Cordoba 35, Edf Villa Blanca 1oC,
Fuengirola, 29640, Malaga, Spain
Tel: 0034 952 664 151 Fax: 0034 952 468 346
Email: info@specialist-lawyers.com
Web: www.specialistic-lawyers.com
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I was contacted by a Rubecca Harrison who asked for details about my investment in Alvita Holidays/Club Class Conciergen; which was a scam. I sent over a copy of the papers I had and they said they would contact me the following day after it had been discussed with the lawyers. True enough the following day a Mr. Alan James (lawyer?) contacted me and informed me that I will not receive my cashback from my timeshare company, that the case to recover it will be closed soon and that I need to get all the details to him ASAP.
Not sure if this is a scam but having read the previous Messages I feel it is. So they won't be getting any money from me.
Can somebody not do anything about all these poxy companies ripping us off.
It is a scam, have no doubt.
We have already reported these people to the Bar Association. It is their duty now to take legal action.
OMG Is there anyone in Spain who is not a rip off merchant. We got a cold call from Ramirez. Why can the EU not do something about these people. I am a member of the Lib Dems and intend to contact my MP about this and will ask her to take this up with the FO. If anyone wants to contact me with more info for her it would help.
Cheers
Grateful to have read and been warned about companies like Rameriz and Rameriz and obviously don't want to be conned out of any more money. But can someone please tell me who I can contact with confidence to help me get justice and compensation for all the money I have already been conned out of? I was told that Cashback was regulated by the Spanish Government - so is there a point of contact that could legitimately take up my case?
I,too, have just received an unsolicited call from a Gareth Fletcher of Ramirez and Ramirez solicitors saying my name had come up on a list of people who were suspected of making payments to a bogus time-share or holiday-buy company and had I made any payments to any such company in the last ten years? When I answered no he thanked me and hung up. I was left unnerved by the tone of his questions and, having been taken by surprise, was suddenly concerned that my identity had perhaps been stolen. I tried to call Mr Fletcher back to ascertain how he'd obtained my number, but he had withheld his, surprise, surprise! I decided to Google the firm which has led me to this great forum! Thank you all for alerting me to this scam, I shall be on my guard in future!
recieved many phone calls from Anna Higson inconnection with Ramirez & Ramirez, after looking into their company,only to find they are using a list of names,Don Tovar HernandezRiverol Lic N 5991.Dona Sara Lia Vilas Lic N6539..Patricia Ramirez Clerides Lic N .6649. How true they are we donot know.
I was also called by Gareth Fletcher of R&R and I have scanned through details of Scams that I have been involved with in trying to sell my Timeshare. The firm purports to be a leading law firm specializing in litigation against Resale Companies, Timeshare Companies, Timeshare Resorts, Holidaay Clubs and Stocks and Investment Schemes.
I have embarrasingly been duped seven times. I had hoped that their lawyers, Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol Lic No 5991, Dona Sara Lia Vilas Lic no 6539, and Patricia Ramirez Cerides Lic no 6649 at Calle Cordoba 35, Edificio Villa Blanca 1-C, fuengirola 29440, Malaga tel 952-664151 Fax 952-468346 email info@specilaist-lawyers.com would be able to help. But this forum suggests otherwise.
Only yesterday 8th Jan Stuart Billington a well spoken convincing young man told me that after consulting with the lawyers, there were definite grounds to go ahead with Gross Misconduct, Gross Misrepresentation and Presumptive Fraud against Gary Lee and Keith Barker Scammers-in-chiefs of various companies involved in Timeshare Resales. I have paid out £6143 on offers for resale of £53,765. Mr Billington assured me they were in the process of freezing assets worth £8.5M and that I could expect to get returned the £6143 AND up to 50% of the offered resale value.
BUT the documents needed to be translated into Spanish and a Notary had to vouch for the authenticity of the transation. Normally this cost 798 Euros per document meaning they would charge £5586 for all the documents but as a special deal R&R would only ask an initial costing of 1286 Euro [£1169] payable by Tuesday - Friday next week so they could "go ahead". They have also asked for Cedit card details - I shall inform the bank after posting this to warn the bank about the scam.
Andrew
hi i live in doncaster and i too have had about 3 calls from this company from a female
named susan lacey very upmarket voice i sent some papers for them to view and i too
expect a call from them again.
i also had calls from the firm called first legal services that was last year whom this firm
ramirez have named on their web page has being dodgy but i actually blew them into
touch but i expect a call from these morans to-day of sometime soon.
perhaps we should all fight back and try to get them put in prison if you are going to
approach your euro mp please pass on my comments too i will now write to dwvc (timelinx)
and express my anger to them and the man there would be craig douglas who will receive
my letters and n ask himm why have they passed on my details and those of others.
regards matty
Evening all
Thanks for the heads up, my sister in law has been contacted by a Richard Ward from Ramirez. Wonderful thing is Google Earth, saw right into the address from the email Ward sent, its an apartment block. Told her to print everything off and take it to her friends at Bristol Police and send a copy to her local trading standards to get things moving. How did this group of miss fits get hold of everybodys email and phone numbers? Makes your blood boil......
We have received a cold call call from this firm Ramirez Legal Specialists. We have emailed all the information they asked for about our holiday club. I spoke to Anthony Ward yesterday and today had a call from John Didcott Head Legal Advisor asking me for £495 to have paperwork translated for the courts (Malaga Crown Court) and we will receive five thousand one hundred pounds back from our claim. We were also told that the lawyers have paid all the legal fees and we would only have to pay for translating documents. We will not be paying this as I think it is a scam!
Both these men spoke very good English as they told me the company is in Malaga.
From a very suspicious couple,
Linda and David Warren.
Scammed i also have had a phone call from DAVID POTTS representing ramirez and ramirez
i have just sent my reclaim voucher and was hoping to receive some money fat chance now
we were with holiday warehouse and club class but i asked him where he got my telephone
number from as we have moved he said FREEDOM something probably bought
Is there anything we as a group from GB can do between us
I have just had a call from an Andrea Reed from Ramirez and Ramirez, concerning money we had payed to DWVC, (which we are sure we will never see again), and how Ramirez and Ramirez are trying to help peolpe get their money back from disreputable Timeshare companies. There seem to be a lot of these so called "lawyers" trying to con people into parting with yet more money in the vain hope of getting some of theri initilal "investment" back. We always Google these legal companies, and, to date, they all seem to be conmen. I even told Andrea that there were a number of "lawyers" trying to scam people further and she agrees that it was an awful thing for them to be doing! I can't wait to receive her follow up call in a couple of weeeks!!!
I have been contacted 3 times in the last few days by Ramirez and Ramirez offering to get all my money back from Reclaim through a joint court action. I have been contacted so many times over the last 4 years that i recognise these scams immediately. I was caught the first time but never again.
The man calling me gave his name as David Potts telling me he was from a firm of legal consultants and the solicitors named are Don Tovar Oliver Hernandez Riverol No.5991,
Dona Sara Lia Viras No.6539 andPatricia Ramira Clerides No.6649.
Address Calle Cordoba 35,Edificio Villa Blanca 1-c,Fuengirola 29440, Malaga.
Hope this is of some use to you.These people are scum quite frankly and it is time they were stopped.
My Husband & myself have been contacted by Susan Lace & Allan James from Ramirez Ramirez over the last few weeks and have had the same response as most of other remarks. We have been defrauded twice over resale of timeshare and almost duped by these laweyers if it was not for this forum. Many thanks
We too have been contacted on 3 occassions by these people - the last time being late yesterday evening. After being scammed by a timeshare shark (F H Publishing) we were very dubious and (happlily) have found this thread. Rubecca has asked that we fax over all paperwork regarding our scam and she would put the ball in motion to try and get our money back.
After the previous advice on this site, I will be taking this matter to a local Trading Standards agency to see if anything can be done about these kinds of people.
We were called about two days ago, and we were convinced by a woman, perfectly spoken in English, saying that my name and details had come up, and would we be interested in getting our money back, and who was the firm that we originally dealt with. We thought about this for a while, and we nearly didn't go through with it, as we had been cold-called before, and when they suggested fee for attending a meeting, here in the K, we said No. But, we were told by this woman, Georgina, that she could put our case to their lawyers, and she would get back to us later that day. Of cours she did, and she persuaded us to hand over payment of 560Euros on our credit card!! I had already sent by email our paperwork that we had with DGS Worldwide, and she said that the Euros were for a Retainer for their lawyers to go ahead with the work. She then rang us back to say that our Building Society had blocked the transaction, and would we ring our bank back and authorise the payment. She said that she had forgotten to tell me this at first, because she had forgotten that they still ask their clients to do this to prevent fraud! I was told by this Georgina that I would receive an email by today (February 12th 2010) I have not received anything as yet. I feel sick now, and wished I hadn't convinced my husband that I thought these seemed to be genuine.
Don't know whether to try and contact them by phone, tell them that we've changed our minds and would like our money back, what do you think??
The contact details I have are:Ramirez & Ramirez legal Consultants. TEl:0034 952 664151, Fax:0034 952 468346. Email:info@specialist-lawyers.com, and Web:www.specialist-lawyers.com.....
I too have this week been contacted by an ever-so plausible chap with a Lancashire accent (as had several of the bogus resale company reps who have called me since I was first scammed back in 2008). Such a nice man, offering to help in any way possible and although he couldn't promise anything, he was confident his "lawyer" chums could recoup at least some of our money. As in that previous post, I also checked out the address in the follow-up e-mail, and can confirm it is an apartment block above a Mercadona supermarket. Not quite what you'd expect for the offices of such an "eminent" law firm as Ramirez and Ramirez.
Coincidentally - or perhaps not, reading the previous posts - I was also contacted last year by "two" of the firms listed above i.e. Legal Advice Council, who seemed to have forgotten that they had already spoken to me under the guise of First Legal Services. They too appear to originate in Lancashire, and seem to have been outlawed by the Financial Services Agency prior to moving to Spain. So - beware the cold caller with the funny voice!
Not that I've anything against Lancastrians, you understand (well actually I have, coming from the right side of the Pennines)
Thanks for all the info, folks - I'm quite looking forward to my next chat with R & R
The guy behind this company is a crook named FABIAN RAMIREZ MARCELO. He's owned several other boiler rooms from where he's ripped off thousands of timeshare owners. He's also the company director for FUENGIROLA SERVICIOS 2002 SL (aka Servicios Fuengirola 2002) and KEY PROPERTIES TOWN ADVISORY SL. I cannot understand why someone like this hasn't been thrown into jail after 8 years of scamming people. Is there no justice in this bloody country?
Many thanks to this forum for opening my eyes and stopping me wasting more money trying to recoup some that's been conned from us. Georgina (Ramirez and Ramirez) phoned me yesterday, where DO they get our telehone nos and info from??? and having e-mailed, is phoning me tomorrow for all details of companies who have already duped us. She sounded so sincere, I really thought this was different but reading your comments realise it's yet another scam. Thanks, this really needs stopping.
I have been contact numerous times by phone and by mail by a women called Rebecca and Allan James working for Ramierz & Ramierz. They do sound so convincing that the case they have against IVC & Cristal Azulado it is about to go to court and they have looked over my documents which I have faxed them and they say I definately have a good case. They estimate that I would get awarded back £17,000 +, which sounded brilliant. I was working out where to spend it. But I had to pay them by credit card 1146 euro for the translation of my documents to spanish. I have been ripped off before so I thought I would do some chekcing out when I found this forum. So when Allan James phoned me back on Friday 19.2.10 I told him what I had read that he was nothing but a scam. Allan still maintained that they were legit and that the companies who had ripped people off in the past with holiday time share/club scams had created this page and posted this bad press about them. He still maintains he is legit and he told me to contact the Spanish Embassy who would confirm they are a professional Company and that in fact the "Law Birds" are the ones who need reporting to the police. He said take my time to check it out and he said he will contact me again next week. He could do with an oscar for his acting .. if what I have read is true he is a hard faced liar.
We have been contacted several times by Anna Higson and she is very believable. Last night she offered to reduce the fee required to approx £700 to add our name to a class action against Club Class holidays which is due in the courts in early March. She nearly convinced us that all the information on the internet about scams was posted by a rival company working for Club Class. Happily I have found this thread and am not going to part with any money, we have already lost enough.
If anybody has any ideas how to recover any of the money already lost would really like to hear about them.
Have been contacted by the above outfit stating that they could recover previously scammed funds from Evemont Consulting. Not only that they also stated that they could recover other monies promised by Evemont. All this for only 798euro and 10% of monies recovered Keep a big stick between them and your bank details!
these fraudsters have just been on to me again for the second time this week. I checked them out with the chap from TCA. He has helped out in the past to recover money from Gold Crown Resorts back in 2002. I asked him last year about Evemont Consulting and was saved from being ripped off by good advice. His website is here
http://www.timeshare.org.uk/index.html
absolutely fabulous old gentleman
well done to all contributors for continuing to thwart the efforts of lazy sons of B*****s who just cant get a regular job for regular money and resort to stealing. thanks to all.
Advice given
Stay Away from anyone that calls You about Casback or Reclaim or Timeshare Resales
I advise you to read the following post:
http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/foru...=187&page=3#27
we have also been contacted by Rebecca Harrison from Ramirez giving the same speech to us as it seems she has to hundreds of other victims.
We were stupid enough to join Timelinx and DWVC in 2006 with the promise of them taking our CPO timeshare of our hands an the promise of about 14K cashback - yeah rite ! We have every year since joining them received a bill for the maintenance for our CPO timeshare and wen forwarded that to timelinx they have forwarded it to company called we sell your timeshare an the first 3 yrs they paid it, this yr however they havent.
We were then stupid no sorry corrrection, mental to be conned again by FH Publishing, handed over the £1K with the promise that someone was in their office wanting to take this of our hands. Six weeks later however no money had been sent to us an wen we queried this they said the other buyers finance had not been accepted, so i asked for my grand bk but they told us the small print said they had a yr to sell it for us. A few weeks later an my partner got a call from them asking us to pay more money an they cud use a different advertising technique to sell our timelinx, my partner turned down this offer. 12 months later I contacted FH Publishing an alerted them to the fact that they had not sold my timelinx, 12 months was up an i wanted my money bk, oh no, cos now they informed us that because they had offered us another deal an we refused we had now lost our rights to our money bk, something else apparently in the small print!
2 weeks bk a lady called Barbara Taylor who informed us she is a compliance officer for the investment bank were our cashback is held, called to inform us that our cashbk form is not completed correctly an that we now need to pay them £250 as a securing fee that we will travel to Tenerife, we pay flites they put us up in a 4* hotel for a week, we get our papers correctly signed an we are then on track to get our cashbk next yr. She forward me an email from a company with an 0161 (Greater Manchester) code, under the name of Fraser and Ward, yet wen we searched company house for its registered details, hey presto none to be found. Shes due to ring us tomorrow were she wants us to pay this money, even though she told us we have 18 months to sort this out, if we dont pay tomoz she will close our file, how can she do this if she is a complaince officer!
Thousands of pounds lost, but the wiser, I have now emailed Which magazine in the hope that someone there is able to help us and we are due to be in touch with trading standards to see if we can get our money bk.
Rebecca Harrison is also due to ring us and I must admit I saw their website an thought finally at last a company that seems to be honest, until I came to this forum, so many many many thanks for all the comments posted on here. I can give her some credit though because she has been ringing me for the last few months an due to stress of work an one thing and another I kept telling her to ring me bk, and she has done only Wed nite!
Anyone wanting to contact me pls do so, lets fight these con artists together,
Sorry if I have gone on lol :)
I too have been contacted by Timeshare Legal. My initial contact identified herself as Barbara Britton but I have since had discussions with a Mick Gofton, whose e-mail address is "Specialist Lawyers" and I have been sent details of their lawyers Ramirez & Ramirez.
I came across this website while Googling the name of one of the lawyers named in Mr Gofton's letter (I had hoped it would get me to the Spanish bar association or similar, although if I had found it, I don't know what I would have done next!).
I did approach both Spanish Embassy in London and British Consul in Malaga to establish the bona fides of another company (first legal services) offering the same "get your money back) deal, but didn't get very far -- I may try again with Ramirez & Ramirez, but the Bar Assoc may not know anything against them!
These companies do seem to emply lots of people - or someone uses a lot of different names!
How does one dispose of a timeshare legally?
I have just been contacted by a Debbie Reed from Frazier & ward. She told me my reclaim certificate was registered incorrectly so it was null in void.
She said I need to register with her company for £250 then I would be given a weeks accomadation in tenerife (for my inconveniance) to meet with a rep from frazier & ward so they can complete my reclaim properly and I can have 95% of the reclaim amount within 6 weeks or I can wait until the end date and have £100.
I am assuming that I will not get a penny back after the end date eeither way because I was conned in the first place.
When I go on holidays in the future I will not be hassled into buying anything else, I cannot believe how silly I've been.
Surely there is someone out there who can help us and stop these fraudsters conning naive people.
I never relized winning on a scratch card would be so expensive.
Has anyone ever received any money with reclaim/cashback?
Has anyone heard of these yet. I received a letter and the paperwork just doesnt look right
It is as simple as asking for the lawyers' names, their bar Association (Colegio de Abogados) and their registration number.
At the first hesitation, you can be sure they are scammers (as this posts shows they are!). All lawyers belong to one or various Bar Associations and practise under a "colegiado" number, and will have no problem giving these details to clients. Asking is no offense; it shows interest by the client in dealing with the right person.
I also have a client now who has been scammed by this company and wants to report the Police.
Regards from the Costa Blanca.