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Alistair
11-17-2008, 12:18 PM
Hi there. I was wondering if anyone dealt with a UK company named European Mediation? They contacted a friend of mine who had purchased off-plan in Spain. They guaranteed him over the phone they would be able to recover in less than 30 weeks 100% of the deposits he had paid to the developer! They said they worked alongside with Spanish lawyers. Do any of you think this is possible? I looked up their website and it has just been created in August 2008. I would really appreciate any feedback on them if they deliver as promised.

Lawbird Lawyer
11-18-2008, 01:05 PM
Dear Sir,

Regarding your surprising post it is simply not possible nor is it serious from a professional point of view to guarantee a full refund, much less of 100% of the deposits paid meaning their is no risk whatsoever.

Besides being unprofessional, it is simply impossible to obtain refunds litigating in less than 30 weeks as you post. Because I assume it's through litigation or how else are they obtaining these refunds? Another matter would be executing a bank guarantee. (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/articles/showArticle/spanish-bank-guarantees)

I've never heard the company you mention before. And I really must query how a UK company can possibly be making such outrageous claims on Spanish law and Spanish legal procedures if it's exactly as you have posted. To back up such strong claims they would need an excellent track record. I'm sorry but we are specialised in litigation and this just simply sounds too good to be true. It sounds more like very aggressive sales pitch.

If you investigate their domain it was created on the 9th August 2008 by Mr Fabio Bratto, hardly a company with a long track record:

Domain name:
european-mediation.co.uk

Registrant:
Fabio Bratto

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
6 Pearson Close, Milnrow, Rochdale, Lancashire
Rochdale
Lancashire
OL16 3UL
GB

Registrar:
TUCOWS Inc [Tag = TUCOWS-CA]
URL: http://www.opensrs.org

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 09-Aug-2008
Renewal date: 09-Aug-2010
Last updated: 07-Oct-2008

If you want to discuss this matter further privately you can always PM us:

http://www.lawbird.com/services/contact

ifv
11-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Is this not regarded as 'ambulance-chasing (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/blog-by-antonio-flores/aircraft-accident-puts-law-firms-in-the-spotlight/)' and strictly forbidden by the Law Society Rules?

Unregistered
11-24-2008, 02:56 PM
I was contacted by this company,offering to act on my behalf to retrieve money lost to Fortuna estates/Oanna who operated a "land banking" scam from offices in Fuengirola Spain.They say they will pursue the case through the Spanish courts and ultimately the European court and will seek compensation from The European Compensation Fund. This ( they say) is a special fund set up for the victims of fraud. They will represent you for 10% of your investment(read loss) and will return said amount if unsuccessful. I'm very sceptical, and asked for a "no win no fee" deal which they declined. The complexity of the scam operated by Fortuna (involving bonafide Spanish lawyers) was so complex I doubt if there is any chance of anyone getting anything back, so please, do your homework, before throwing good money after bad in an attempt to retrieve something. In my opinion this scam was so large and involved so many Spanish professionals,that something should be done about it in Spain.

Lawbird Lawyer
11-27-2008, 05:03 PM
...They say they will pursue the case through the Spanish courts and ultimately the European court and will seek compensation from The European Compensation Fund. This ( they say) is a special fund set up for the victims of fraud.



Dear Sir/Madame,

There is no such thing as "The European Compensation Fund" as per your post, I regret to inform you.

another1
11-28-2008, 02:41 PM
I was also contacted by these people. They claim to be able to recoup money which I lost in a land investment called Bella Fortuna, near Malaga.

I also noted that it's a newly-registered company.

I'm not sure what to do. If I pay their fee by credit card then I presume I will be able to recover it from the card company if European Mediation do a runner.

Simon
12-01-2008, 01:12 AM
I have also been contacted by them. I was an Instant Access Property member, and E. Mediation have contacted me about a development in San Pedro del Pinetar, Murcia. Completion date was 31-12-08, but this has now slipped to Summer 2010. They have told me that providng I have the approriate paperwork, and deposit is in an "ESCRO" account then this should be a pretty straight forward claim for 100% refund including legal expense. They have not guaranteed anything, but they have said things would be wrapped up in 6 months!? They did say they could not offer a "no win no fee" policy, but they would accept 5% payment, rather than 10% up front, and then invoice a larger % of regained funds, as a premium for this. They also said they would refund all 5% if they found not in "Escro" account. Although I may be a cynic, and also very concerned about throwing "good money after bad" Lawbird cannot be seen as independant view with their comments on another solicitors, can they? Having said this if they are offering "no win no fee" I would consider their services, as I suspect would many other IAPS members! The solicitor mentioned on the European Mediation website is below. I am not sure whether anyone has come across this guy, who is suppose to be a litigation specialist. In fact Lawbird, you may know him?

J C Bufete.
C/. San Rafael 32-A
Edificio Juan Pablo II
2a Piso, Oficina 5-6

Lawbird Lawyer
12-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Although I may be a cynic, and also very concerned about throwing "good money after bad" Lawbird cannot be seen as independant view with their comments on another solicitors, can they? J C Bufete.


Dear Sir,

In view of your unwarranted attack on our law firm I will reply to your post.

If you reread our posts above, at no time have we criticized any fellow lawyer or law firm as you surprisingly post. That is something you have taken out of the blue. Please quote us criticizing the lawyer or law firm you mention.

European Mediation is not a solicitor's company, unlike us, at least to the best of our knowledge. Perhaps you can prove me wrong. In fact the law firm you quote has only been mentioned by yourself on this thread, no one else other than yourself has mentioned it. In fact it's the first time we've seen it posted. Fact.

We have replied to posters queries, that's all. If they have made a mistake (?) or have misunderstood what they'be been told over the phone by European Mediation representatives we have no control over that and cannot be held accountable. We just reply to the legal queries raised on this thread.


We have been factual:

1. You cannot guarantee the recovery of deposits 100% to a client meaning there is no risk. It is unprofessional. Fact.

If this company, European Mediation, are so confident in its abilities to recover 100% guaranteeing it as others post, then it stands to logic they should follow a no-win, no-fee basis instead of charging 10% of the deposits up front, wouldn't you agree Simon?

2. You cannot obtain deposits in 6 months through litigation in Spain. Fact.

The only exception would be if they had bank guarantees (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/articles/showArticle/spanish-bank-guarantees) as we highlighted in our first post on this thead.

3. There is no European Compensation Fund which is where the deposits will be refunded from as they seem to claim. Fact.

4. This company's website, European Mediation, is lesss than 4 months old. Fact.

5. The company itself, European Mediation Limited, is less than 4 months old (see post below). Fact.

6. Said company can have no track record recovering deposits, at least in Spain, in such a short span of time (4 months). Fact.

7. Deposits paid to developers are hardly ever held in escrow accounts albeit in special accounts, so they will find none. Fact.

8. We've never heard the law firm you mention (JC) before which does not mean it doesn't exist. In Málaga region alone, where we are located, there are more than 4.000 colleged lawyers not to mention the rest of Spain, can't know them all.

Doesn't anyone query from where they're getting all your personal contact details by which they phone you out of the blue? Whose sold them -or copied- the databases with all your personal details and financial details of your failed investments in Fortuna Land, Oanna Ltd etc.?

Simon I would kindly ask you to be factual likewise on your posts, not to invent things -as you've done-, not to raise false accusations and not to go astray keeping on this thread's topic.

Thank you.

Unregistered
12-01-2008, 04:11 PM
We've also been contacted by European Mediation with a view to being compensated for money we invested in Fortunaland. The guy who rang me out of the blue, said they want 10% of the amount we have invested up front to cover their costs, this would then be added to the amount of the claim from the (so called) European Compensation Fund. When (if) we receive our compensation they would then invoice us for a further 8% of the original amount.

If this organisation is not on the level, does anyone out there know of an organisation that would be able to help. Any advice on how to proceed would be very welcome.

Lawbird Lawyer
12-02-2008, 02:10 PM
EUROPEAN MEDIATION LIMITED

Running a search on this company not only is their website less than 4 months old (dating from 9th August 2008), the company itself has only been incorporated the 11th of August 2008.

Details from Companies House below:-

Name & Registered Office:
EUROPEAN MEDIATION LIMITED
JAGUAR HOUSE 6 HARTHILL STREET
MANCHESTER
M8 8AG
Company No. 06669400

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 11/08/2008

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
None Supplied

Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 11/05/2010
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 08/09/2009

Lady Slim Sackey
12-02-2008, 11:25 PM
These people have contacted me too and like most of you I queried their legitimacy but they have not yet been able to prove their credibility. In fact, I have not heard from them since then. Some vulnerable person will fall for their ploy and yet again loose a substantial amount of money. It is very sad that such companies are allowed to operate here in the UK and swindle people of their hard-earned cash.

If anyone were to find a way to deal with these scams please do share with the rest of us and most importantly what we can do to get our money back from Instant Access and the Spanish developers.

Richard
12-03-2008, 02:07 AM
I too received a call, just this evening, here in Ireland.
The polite gentleman was very sympathetic and repeated
the phrase "you dont want to send good money after bad"

He mentioned legal fees of 10 per cent and another 8 per cent on
successful completion.He did not indicate any up front payment but did refer me to their web site and suggested that a search would also find
confirmation of a EC bases institution which hands over fraud
compensation funds. So far I cannot find any such EC institution.

He was very sure about the potential success rate and referred
confidently to the European Compensation Fund as being a thing of fact
which would oblige the Spainish Government to compensate in full
all losses and legal cost which arise as a result of fraudulent activity.

He explained that they would take what I understood to be some style of class action and was very confident of getting a full refund for all those who lost in this case. He promised to call me again on Thursday.
He gave a phone number to me in case I wanted to call him back.

I was wise enough to be very modest with my Fortuna investment but
I would be more than miffed to be doubly caught.

What is the law on this kind of thing in UK ?
Is it covered by Consumer protection agencies ?
Can any one of you get it on to BBC crime watch or watch-dog or whatever so that we can have some exposure and clarity ?

I will not pay up front ever without a cast iron irrrevocable guarantee, but as ithye caller sounds so polite and plausable and kindly ( so British !) it is for sure that many people will be conmvinced to do so.

Be aware ! / Richard

pen907
12-04-2008, 10:17 PM
keep well away from e.m. they are a scam. All investors of fortuna / oanna are at present trying to set up a representative body to fight to try and get some of their investments back. If it seems to good to be true it is. I also have been contacted by e.m.



Hi there. I was wondering if anyone dealt with a UK company named European Mediation? They contacted a friend of mine who had purchased off-plan in Spain. They guaranteed him over the phone they would be able to recover in less than 30 weeks 100% of the deposits he had paid to the developer! They said they worked alongside with Spanish lawyers. Do any of you think this is possible? I looked up their website and it has just been created in August 2008. I would really appreciate any feedback on them if they deliver as promised.

Lawbird Lawyer
12-05-2008, 11:56 AM
I refer our forum lurkers and posters to our useful blog post (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/wordpress/) (scroll below):


9 Tips on How to Determine if an Offer is a Scam
October 17th, 2008 @ 14:10 by admin




We are receiving a dozen queries every day asking about the legitimacy of certain offer, generally received by email or over the phone after a cold call. Unfortunately, we cannot analyze case by case, and therefore will provide a set of useful hints which will help you evaluate the legitimacy of the company or individual yourself.

The list below is provided in no particular order:

1. Is the domain name old enough? By means of a Whois search you can find out when the domain name was registered. If it’s only a few weeks old, be suspicious.

2. Are they using mobiles? – If the phones used as contact numbers are mobile numbers instead of land lines, it’s definitely not a good sign. In Spain, mobile numbers start by +34 6..

3. Have you been contacted out of the blue? – If you where cold called, or received an email from someone you don’t know, ask yourself why these people have your contact details.

4. Are you being requested to pay money upfront? This is the single most worrying point if it comes in conjunction of with one or more of the above.

5. Is the offer too good to be true? If the offer sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

6. Is the company properly registered? – Although it’s something positive if they can provide you with company registration details, you shouldn’t give this point too much importance. Fraudsters have been registering companies for decades with the sole purpose of deceiving (e.g. dozens of companies where incorporated by fraudsters to conduct the infamous Timeshare Resale Scam)

7. Is the address for their offices correct? – Not sure why, fraudsters tend to provide you with fake addresses which don’t really exist. Check any of the online street directories and find out if the address provided is correct.

8. Something strange about their names? Funny names such as “Woley Fernandez” or “Barrister Perez Santos ESQ” are names made up by Nigerians conducting 419 advance fee scams (the terms “Barrister” or “ESQ” don’t exist in Spanish law). Also, fraudsters tend to cite fake organisms such as “The Ministry of Finance” or “The Security Company”.

9. What others are saying – Use search engines to find information about the company. Try putting the company in inverted comas, and add terms like “scam” or “fraud”. The company or individual you mention might have already been reported online as fraudsters by other people.

Needless to say, the above list shouldn’t be taken as definitive, nor the absolute legitimacy o illegitimacy of a company established based on one or more of the above points. You can use it, however, to personally evaluate the risk of the transaction.

My recommendation is that you never pay any moneys upfront if you have been contacted out of the blue. However, if you have to, before doing so always suggest the use of an escrow company (chosen by you) to hold the funds until the product or service has been delivered. If they refuse, I recommend that you back off.

Always remember; have a lawyer analyze the transaction before making any up-front payments.

Lawbird Lawyer
12-05-2008, 03:26 PM
For all those of you who have failed investmenst in Fortuna Land, Fortuna Estates, Oanna Group please read this thread. (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99) Thank you.

Lawbird Legal Services (http://www.lawbird.com/)

Unregistered
12-05-2008, 08:32 PM
I, too, am/was a member of IAP and have been cold-called by the same company, European Mediators Ltd.. I found this thread by doing a search on "European Compensation Fund", wondering if they'd just picked a name that sounds legitimate. I also searched on "European Mediators" and found other similarly named organisations that do appear to mediate rather than pursue claims!

It may be of interest to you to know that, when I asked, they said that they had (after some perseverance) been given access to the database by the liquidators of IAP. So far as I know, the only persons with access to the database were Inside Track (now in liquidation), IAP Ltd (also in liquidation) and now, having purchased it for £70,000 from IAP Ltd. – along with other rights - IAP Global, the company that Jim Moore has established to rescue members from the ashes of IAP Ltd.. I would be very interested to know who is behind European Mediation (i.e. shareholder(s)). On their website, under Legal Services, the only person listed is a JC Bufete who appears to be a Notary.

After the first call, I expressed some doubts and said that I thought the agreement with IAP required me to keep things confidential so I couldn't discuss my case. They called me again and gave me a few days to think about it, saying a "senior advisor" would call me back on Wednesday 3rd December.

I got a call back on 3rd December from someone answering to the name of Jessica Walker (popular name for chocolates or athletics). She suggested that I take some time to look at their website then she'd call back early next week. She told me they would charge 8% plus VAT, though no-one said this was up-front, that it would take 16-20 weeks and that it was an absolute certainty I would get all my money back. If it's that much of a certainty, I wouldn't expect to pay a penny up front: they would be guaranteed to get their remuneration so shouldn't need money up front, so I would just have them deduct their share from my compensation.

Unregistered
12-06-2008, 01:23 AM
I too have been contacted at least twice by European Mediation, I noticed that when I asked too many questions they became evasive. Someone I trust checked them out for me and his opinion was they are a "scam". You can judge for yourselves but Lawbird seems to have the measure of them.
I lost over £500K through the company IAP Instant Access Properties run by the notorious Jim Moore/ Anthony MacKay/ Maria Gifford/Brad Rosser ( yes he has gone very quiet recently ) When my case was covered in the national press several times, Anthony MacKay told the newspapers he was helping me, This is another of his lies.
If you are another victim do beware.... and as Lawbird says if they really where 100% certain of getting your money back they would work for no win no fee.
I asked the person who last rang me if I could speak to one of the lawyers they claimed they had working for them,( after all they were charging very substantial fees for their" service" he was unable to give me even a name!!!!!

Lawbird Lawyer
12-10-2008, 07:03 PM
An interesting and very useful blog post from OverseasCafe.com.

http://overseascafe.blogspot.com/2008/12/fortuna-estates-raided-by-fraud-squad.html

aragornfiona
12-10-2008, 10:16 PM
I am a lawyer who has tonight been contacted by European Mediation regarding my Instant Access investments. I was sceptical at being phoned out of the blue and so checked out their website and the comments on this and other forums - thank goodness for search engines! I have recently made my own enquiries of rereferred litigation solicitors who advised on the actual property deal - an off-plan in Manchester which has yet to complete after at least 7 notified completion dates. If anyone wishes to consider a legitimate class action with approved law firms, I'd be more than willing to join them. I work in general insurance and am incensed at the heavy regulation involved in dealing with insurances averaging a few hundred pounds and yet Instant Access were allowed to take thousands of pounds from us without any regulation whatsoever. The loophole needs to be closed fast to prevent other innocent victims from suffering the same fate.

pinksky
12-11-2008, 05:48 PM
I have been in discussions with this so called company too after being 'cold called'. I was told because I had bought a property abroad I had been put on a list of such people and that is how I was contacted. Although I was given a British telephone number to contact them (as per their site) calls received from them were echoey as if not made in this country (England). I do not have any dealings with property in Spain, however I have a couple in other countries through Instant Access Properties. The spiel was all about breach of contract and claiming back all monies paid to Iaprops so far i.e. if the completion date had exceeded 6 months over the date given at time of initial purchase, and getting my membership fees back from Iaprops.

One of my properties is well over the six months in USA so I gave details of that and of my membership fees of Iaprops. The details were then supposedly given to the lawyers to assess and two days later I was called again only to be be told that they were unable to go ahead with the USA property because of the property laws/builders in USA but they could get my membership fees back. Question - why did he take all the details when he knew that it wasn't possible? Answer - To hook me and get my enthusiasm going for more.

So to get my membership fees back I needed to forward to them their 'legal fees' - 10 percent of my claim plus VAT. This amount would then be added to the amount I would be claiming and then the total would be claimed from the "European Fund". Then, when I get the total amount awarded, EM invoices me for 8 percent, plus VAT, as their fee!!! If, however, the claim backfires, I have paid the 'legal fees' which of course are non-refundable - I DON"T THINK SO!!!!!

Scam scam scam

greygandalf
12-15-2008, 07:32 PM
I was a member of Instant Access, and have been approached by European Mediators. No mention of up front fees ...yet. But just today I was told by a certain Olivia de Costa that Instant Access, IAP (a new incarnation) and Jim Moore were owing many millions of pounds, were wanted by Inland Revenue, and had defrauded many people. I have just received an email of an IAP Global newsletter, ( you can google IAP Global ) mentioning Jim Moore, Instant Access etc etc, as if nothings wrong!!!


Any ideas?

Richard
12-16-2008, 12:06 AM
European Mediation have called me also and mentioned that they have a lot of Irish investors on their list.

I suggested that they should arrange a meeting in Dublin with an Irish solicitor
present to show credibility and to allow us to discuss face to face in open forum.

Would anyone else be willing to attend a Dublin meeting?

Richard /

Rob
12-16-2008, 02:01 PM
I spoke with Jessica Walker from EML yesterday. I quizzed her about the company and yes she got a little defensive. I also requested a 'proposal' from them i.e. what I get for my 10% upfront fee, but was only offered a 'process' document - not really what I had in mind!

She also referred me to The Sun newspaper of last week by way of a reference - I didn't waste my time.

She did however point me at the following website which appears to be the European Commission website and gives details of the European Compensation fund or 'Compensation to crime victims' as it is referred to //ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/comp_crime_victim/comp_crime_victim_gen_en.htm

It would appear to be a member state funded plan (click on 'UK' on the right to see further details) and from an initial glance would appear that you can do it yourself and legal aid could be available.

On EML as a company, interestingly the address on the website and the address to which the domain name is registered is actually a semi-detached leasehold property on a residential estate in Rochdale bought for £118k in June '04. Is this the profile of a high flying hot shot with a proven track record or perhaps a rental property?

The Manchester address seems OK but is occupied by a number of businesses (including a off plan property business selling in units in Portugal - could not find any other connection - but interesting)

As a note their website lists J C Bufete; C/. San Rafael 32-A; Edificio Juan Pablo II; 2a Piso, Oficina 5-6 as their legal team

Now I guess the key questions are:
- Have we been victims of a crime? I anticipate this has to be in the eyes of a court so has Mr Moore actually been done for mis-selling?
- Is this 'Compensation to crime victims' program intended for these sorts of instances?
- Are EML actually going to leverage this process to its max or just take your money and make a half hearted attempt and then come back in 6 months with a "Sorry, we lost the claim" or just disappear altogether?
- are there other organisation with a track record out there?

Lawbird and everyone - would appreciate your comments

Lawbird Lawyer
12-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Dear Sir,

Following you own link:http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/comp_crime_victim/comp_crime_victim_gen_en.htm

I quote:

How can you obtain compensation for the injuries and losses suffered as a result of a crime committed against you?

To become the victim of a crime is one of the most negative experiences imaginable. A victim can suffer severe physical injuries as well as severe mental stress and psychological problems, for a long period of time, as a result of the crime. The victim may have to bear the costs for medical treatment and long-term hospitalisation, and may lose income due to an incapacity to continue working. The victim may feel that his or her personal integrity has been violated, suffer long-term anxiety for moving around in public, and feel a generally reduced enjoyment of life.

Clearly it is referring only to cases in which a physical assault/injury has been sustained and or else any mental hardship has been endured.

What has that got to do with failed investments in IAP and Fortunaland et al? Nothing.

We have nothing further to add to our prior posts on this UK company. It is up to the reader to make up his own mind on this matter and for the UK Authorities to take action, if appropriate.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

Abraham Lincoln,
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

musicman
12-16-2008, 04:08 PM
I am an IAP member (or was) and I too was contacted out of the blue from EML. A Mrs McNally has offered to fully refund our membership fees through the same process everyone here has been offered. I would like to thank people for voicing this scam and in particular Lawbird for offering up the facts.

We were interested but nervous of this not being legit which is when I started searching on the web. I feel sorry for people who maybe aren't so clued up on the internet and may now be losing even more money. Something should be done.

Luckily, we never bought from IAP but it still cost us £10,000 to become a 'member'.

Rob
12-16-2008, 06:01 PM
Thanks for the feedback Lawbird.

Wish I was clever.

greygandalf
12-16-2008, 09:03 PM
I posted yesterday, and today looked at the EM website. If you have any doubts that this is a total scam, please note the following.

For me personally, I would prefer my legal representatives, if they are competent, to at least check the spelling of words they would surely be familiar with........ (This taken directly from their home page)...

"European Mediation is a mediation company that liases between multiple clients and lawyers to persue compensation for fraud victims. We are not a brokerage house, no-one from European Mediation will offer to buy, trade or switch any investment you have.."

In case you didn't spot them, "liases" should be spelt "liaises" and "persue" should be "pursue", small points perhaps, but proof for me that these are legal representatives I would not want to work for me.

(Unless they go for no money up front and "no win, no fee")

Mouse
12-17-2008, 11:21 AM
There is no European Fund for victims of fraud.

The European Commission website shows that all member states must have a national scheme in place (ref. new EU legislation adopted 29 April 2004). If you read on you can find that this only applies to violent crime i.e. 'a physical attack on the person, a wounding or a sexual offence'.

The European Mediation co. are quoting 'section 706/14' on the European Commission civil justice section of the website. This refers you to the information and small print above.

Rob
12-17-2008, 02:17 PM
Amusingly Jessica Walker called me again yesterday and after having a polite go at her she threatened to shred my file if I didn’t take up their offer before Friday.

I hope it’s a big cross cutter!

Thanks all for saving my dosh.:)

Crabster
12-31-2008, 12:07 PM
To All,

I too have been contacted by EML and am a member of IAP. I lost a significant amount due to property investment through Inside Track / Access thanks to Jim Moore and his cronies, but that is another story.

I was contacted by Samantha Charles 'senior advisor' from EML and gave her verbal details of the properties purchased through IAP. One was in Spain, but it was a different development to the ones mentioned before (Arenal Golf, Benalmadena). I also purchased two other properties in Leeds and Florida. However SAmantha phoned me within 24 hrs and said I was eligible for £120k compensation through the european courts, despite her not having seen not one piece of documentation, which made me more than a little suspicious. However I ran with it and she dropped her initial request from 10% up front to 5%. After several weeks she has said the EML 'lawyers' will accept any payment by credit card to 'start the process'

I had done a bit of research over the web, and had no intention of persuing this, then I found this blog, which has fully confirmed my suspicions. When I asked for details of EML and details of other clients cases where they had been successful they declined, although I didn't expect to to get any. I was also concrned that being a law firm that they only communicated by mobile and e-mails that looked like had been writted by a 5 year old, with no headed paper.

Obvoiusly I am in a similar position to other IAP Members who have lost money and do not wish to throw more good money after bad, but should ther not be a legal process which can expose scams and fraudsters like these operating in the open market??

:mad:

Lawbird Lawyer
12-31-2008, 12:15 PM
I was also concrned that being a law firm that they only communicated by mobile and e-mails that looked like had been writted by a 5 year old, with no headed paper.


Dear Sir,

EML is not a law firm as you happen to write.

Regards,

Lawbird Lawyer
01-07-2009, 02:06 PM
An interesting article (http://property.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/property/overseas/article5437968.ece)on Fortuna Land from The Sunday Times which mentions European Mediation Limited (EML) as well.

An excerpt:

Many had become aware of Fortuna’s problems only after they were contacted by European Mediation, a Rochdale-based company, which offered to recover their losses – provided they paid 10% of the amount they were owed as an upfront fee. It is not clear how many – if any – people have been able to retrieve their money using its services. European Mediation failed last week to respond to requests from The Sunday Times to comment.

Unregistered
01-16-2009, 08:00 PM
I am also a member of IAP and was just called by a Mr Adams from European Mediation, promising to get all my money back from a property purchased in OCHANDO GOLF MURCIA SPAIN, as the developer is in breach of contract for not completing on time. as with everyone else they mentioned the cost of 10% of what my total claim would be and a further 8% after they get ALL my money back.

I am in no doubt now that they are a scam but does anyone know of how I can get out of the contract with the developer and maybe claim some of my money back, so I can settle down and relax nowing I havnt got anymore I need to spend on a property that might not even get built.

Lawbird your views would be much appreciated.

Lawbird Lawyer
01-16-2009, 09:00 PM
Dear Sir/Madam,

Regarding EML I refer you to post number 24 on this thread. We have nothing further to add.

Regarding you own matter please contact us (http://www.lawbird.com/services/contact) and we will get in touch with you.

Cherryl
01-18-2009, 07:32 PM
Just before Christmas, I received a telephone call from Jordan Adams about our property in Grand Palisades Florida USA, still to be completed and bought through Instant Access. I asked all the usual questions about the source of my name, unsual to canvas for clients, no-win/no-fee, successes with other clients, solictors used, all that everybody else appears to have asked.

Mr. Adams gave me little time to ask questions and has pursued me ever since until today I emailed the company detailing what I expected before I would consider any 10% up front. I am looking forward to the reply!

During one call, a reply to my question referred me to a company called Glovistared from which Mr. Adams said they were an 'off-shoot' and, when I asked, said they had been in operation for eight years when, in fact they have been running for two years. Today, having found your site, I have emailed the company to ask about E.M.Ltd.
The website is poorly constructed, as indicated by one of your writers, and none of the claims have any proof of legitimacy.

I only discovered your website by chance after still worrying about whether to act or not and sending the email to EM Ltd. I would like to thank you for highlighting this 'scam' and all those who have contributed their experiences as it has certainly helped me to decide DEFINITELY NOT!

If anybody knows of a bonafide company acting on behalf of purchasers in Grande Palisades USA, I should be very grateful to hear about it.

Peter C
01-22-2009, 01:23 PM
I too have been contacted by European Mediation very much on the same terms as already detailed. Thanks to the information included in this blog I will not be pursuing this any further. In my case the scam involved buying shares through a company called Emerging Equity Group which has now ' disappeared'. I would be interested in knowing whether any other people were involved in this scam and whether there are any actions in progress to recover the funds invested

Unregistered
01-25-2009, 08:17 PM
European Mediation Group = Complete and utter scam. I too was a member of Inside Track and Instant Access and was contacted by this "company" last week. Praying on the desperate! Don't believe a word they say!

Unregistered
01-27-2009, 02:28 PM
I too was contaced by the above so called company first on 22-1-09 that's when the bombshell fell of Fortunaland on me...! I guess I was a bit ignorant and had not kept up with the news! I am so grateful to have read this thread and now know that EM Ltd is a scam.

Many thanks to all and Lawbird.

Unregistered
01-31-2009, 12:04 AM
I have been contacted recently out of the blue by these people. I was caught out in a scam a couple of years ago involving a company called Allied Champ Investments, where I stupidly lost quite a bit of money. EML have offered the service as described on their website whereby they would recover all my monies & catch up with the directors etc & get them punished for their crimes.

A "no win, no fee" approach might have tempted me, but the 10% up front is the killer. Never again will I get caught out sending monies in advance. Glad I looked at this website & the various threads, which have confirmed my suspicions that this is yet another scam.

Unregistered
02-04-2009, 02:23 AM
Dear All,

There is a EU Directive, namely the Investment Compensation Directive which is set up as a fund available to compensate investors in the EU against loss of investments by way of fraud or insolvency to a value not below 90%. Can Lawbird please confirm that this is accurate? I too invested and would participate in legal proceedings to regain any of the money back.

Unregistered
02-04-2009, 11:48 AM
I too am a victim of the Fortunaland investment. Everything Im reading is about EM. What is more to the point is not their validity, but how do we retrieve our investment. Whats the next move.

Lawbird Lawyer
02-04-2009, 02:27 PM
I too am a victim of the Fortunaland investment. Everything Im reading is about EM. What is more to the point is not their validity, but how do we retrieve our investment. Whats the next move.

Dear Sir/Madam,

We are already representing clients victims of Fortunaland.

You may want to read our various blog posts (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/wordpress/tag/fortuna-land/) on the matter or else the thread we’ve started (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99) in the general forum so those affected can contact each other and discuss the matter freely. You can also watch our updated videos as the case progresses.

You may want to contact us privately (http://www.lawbird.com/services/contact) on the matter.

Unregistered
02-04-2009, 04:25 PM
for about two weeks now, someone from european mediation is trying to get me pay their company a 10, % upfront fee for getting compensating from a boilerroom company called Portman West which operated from Frankfurt am Main Germany but according to EM was located in Spain. They refer to the crime compensation program from the European Union
(www.ec.europa.eu/civiljustice) which offers an indemnisation for
people in the EEC victims of crime. They propose to "bundle" a claim for at least 30 persons and to get compenstion in a time frame of 16 to 18 month. Does anyone else has purchases shares through Portman &West Financial Services which appear to be worthless and had been contacted by EM?

Lawbird Lawyer
02-04-2009, 04:53 PM
for about two weeks now, someone from european mediation is trying to get me pay their company a 10, % upfront fee for getting compensating from a boilerroom company called Portman West which operated from Frankfurt am Main Germany but according to EM was located in Spain. They refer to the crime compensation program from the European Union
(www.ec.europa.eu/civiljustice) which offers an indemnisation for
people in the EEC victims of crime. They propose to "bundle" a claim for at least 30 persons and to get compenstion in a time frame of 16 to 18 month. Does anyone else has purchases shares through Portman &West Financial Services which appear to be worthless and had been contacted by EM?

Dear Sir/Madam,

I draw your attention to post number 24 (http://www.marbella-lawyers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77&page=3) on this thread.

Lawbird Lawyer
02-09-2009, 06:31 PM
Because of its high interest we reproduce this article from This is Money (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/columnists/article.html?in_page_id=19&in_article_id=473750&in_author_id=5).


http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/money/article-1138697/TONY-HETHERINGTON-My-failed-search-elusive-Mr-Garlick.html

We credit this information to an anonymous person who has fallen victim of Eurpean Mediation Limited and emailed us this link besides other sensitive information.

Thank you.

TONY HETHERINGTON: READERS' CHAMPION

Hetherington: Euopean Mediation scam | Boiler room boss jailed

8 February 2009

Every week, Tony Hetherington replies to readers' letters, adding comments, advice and the results of his enquiries.


If you think you are a victim of financial mismanagement, or want advice before investing, write to Tony Hetherington, Financial Mail, 2 Derry Street, London W8 5TS. Sorry, but he cannot give personal replies. Please only send copies of original documents, which, we regret, cannot be returned...

A.T. writes: I am writing to you about my shares in Carbug. I have been approached by a company called European Mediation Limited which says its legal team can recover my money from a European Union compensation fund set up to repay victims of fraud. However, I have been asked to pay ten per cent of the amount I lost in Carbug to cover legal fees.

Let's not beat about the bush saying that maybe European Mediation can somehow get back the money you paid for shares in security firm Carbug, even if you cannot quite see where the compensation will come from.

Instead, let's be blunt. Carbug was a scam. European Mediation is another scam. There is no EU fund to repay fraud victims. Your money has gone - but I suspect that you know this already.

European Mediation Limited was set up last August. Its sole director, who also doubles as company secretary, is Peter Francis Garlick, 65, who is described in Companies House records as a 'musical technician'. The fiddle perhaps?

Garlick's website boasts of 'our own in-house legal counsel' as well as an international network of specialist lawyers who will gather evidence, 'enforce legislation changes' and ensure that charges are filed. And as well as contacting victims of the Carbug share fraud, whose organiser Tony Rose was jailed for five years in 2006, Garlick's telephone sales staff have also been busy ringing up people who lost money through failed Spanish land company Fortuna Estates.

They even told one victim who lost money to an American firm in New Jersey that they could help him, though the US is some way outside the EU. And they have promised aid to investors who put their money into property after attending seminars run by the now collapsed Inside Track group, despite there being no allegation of fraud against it.

People contacted by European Mediation have been told that its head office is at Jaguar House, in Harthill Street, Manchester, so I went there to have a chat with Garlick about the impossible promises made by his staff.

The building, in Manchester's rundown rag-trade district, is home to several companies and is linked to local businessman Stephen Gilbey, who was briefly a director of European Mediation last year.

But there was no sign of Garlick and his company, let alone his sales staff and in-house counsel. They had moved to Rochdale, I was told.

So I followed them and found European Mediation's new address - a modest semi-detached house in Pearson Close, occupied only by a dog. Garlick, his sales staff and his in-house counsel were not at home.

I pushed a note through the door, asking him to call me, but he didn't. I also left messages on his company's three British phone numbers, but nobody called me back.

Perhaps they have all moved again, which might explain why some people say they were rung up from a Spanish phone number, despite the salesman's protests that he really was in Manchester or Rochdale. And those ten per cent fees certainly do go to Rochdale, to an account at HSBC Bank in Yorkshire Street. Or perhaps they move on too. Don't send a penny.

Unregistered
02-26-2009, 01:15 PM
Doea anyone have a name or phone number for European Mediation Ltd. in Spain.
The company has now cropped up on Tony Hetherington's column in Money Mail.

Unregistered
03-03-2009, 03:03 PM
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Unregistered
03-04-2009, 02:12 PM
As posted on the Motley Fool, website. A hint for the gullible and stupid "the post I'm sure was created by the Alias PeterFGarlick and not Mr Peter F Garlick himself.

http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/2008/02/26/watch-out-for-this-shares-scam.aspx


PeterFGarlick 09 Feb 2009 , 1:11pm

I' am a victim of said:

European Mediation Ltd
72 New Bond Street
London, W15 1RR

and

Day Cooper Adams Ltd
4th Floor, 3 Tenterten Street
Hanover Square
London, W15 1TD

Both address are managed by a virtual office company called www.4business.com. Both address were opened with a passport copy belonging to Mr Peter Frances Garlick, The same Peter Garlick listed as sole Director and Company Secretary of European Mediation.

I have a copy of Mr Peter Francis Garlicks Passport which was used to set up the virtual offices with www.4business.com. This passport copy is available to anyone who is interested in it! It has a note requesting Mr Garlick to visit 4business with original copies of I.D for verification.

Please make this info public so that nobody makes the same mistakes I made.

And I would appreciate any suggestions or help in getting my money back or crushing this scum.

Below is a link to an article confirming the scam from The Evening Standard.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/columnists/article.html?in_page_id=19&in_article_id=473750&in_author_id=5


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PeterFGarlick 25 Feb 2009 , 12:43pm

EUROPEAN MEDIATION SCAM ARTISTS, PROVEN BOILER ROOM.

Have again used PETER FRANCIS GARLICK PASSPORT to set up www.glovistared.com.

Another bogus company designed to steel our money.

Pater Francis Garlick Passport #: 040519317

Date of Birth: April 1943

Place of Birth: LITTLEBOROUGH

ISSUE DATE: 16 SEPT 03
EXPIRY DATE: 16 SEPT 13

Whoever wants a copy of the passport post your European Mediation story here.

Below is a link confirming the European Mediation Fraud, Scam, Theft, Cheat in the U.K Newspapers.


http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/columnists/article.html?in_page_id=19&in_article_id=473750&in_author_id=5

Diamond
03-07-2009, 04:43 PM
I too am a victim of the Fortunaland investment. Everything Im reading is about EM. What is more to the point is not their validity, but how do we retrieve our investment. Whats the next move.
We are also victims of Inside Track and European Mediation. Unfortunately we did not do our homework early enough and have handed over our money. We are now trying to get our money back from the company which as we all know may not be at all possible.

Would appreciate any advice from anyone who can advise on getting our money back.

There must be something we can do to stop these bogus company from operating and preying on innocent people.

Diamond
03-07-2009, 04:52 PM
:mad:

We too have been a victim of both Inside Track and European Mediation. Unfortunately we did not do our homework in time and handed over our money.

Promptly afterwards Jessical Walker and anyone else to speak to about anything became unavailable, they report to be continually having problems with their telephone system, do not seem to be able to get it fixed.

They now want our passport numbers which really gave us the eebby jeebies and will not be entering into any contract with them.

We are now in the process of asking for our money back which we all know is not be forthcoming but we are still trying.

We would appeciate any advice from anyone in our situation on how we can put pressure on this company to give back monies they have taken off innocent people and how to bring them and other bogus companies like themselves to justice.

Unregistered
03-11-2009, 06:32 PM
11 Mar 2009 14:58 in Government News Network news

Provisional liquidator appointed to European Mediation Ltd

INSOLVENCY SERVICE News Release (Coms/Ins/48) issued by COI News Distribution Service. 11 March 2009

The Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory Reform has presented a petition in the High Court to wind up European Mediation Limited in the public interest.

The company offers to assist victims of fraud to obtain compensation for their losses. The petition to wind up the company was presented following an investigation carried out by Companies Investigation Branch under section 447 of the Companies Act 1985 (as amended). The Official Receiver has been appointed as Provisional Liquidator of the company. The case is now subject to High Court action and no further information will be available until the petition is heard on 5 May 2009.

NOTES TO EDITORS

1. The registered office of European Mediation Limited is at 6 Pearson Close, Rochdale, Lancashire, OL16 3UL. The company was incorporated in August 2008.

2. The petition was presented under s124A of the Insolvency Act 1986. The Official Receiver was appointed as Provisional Liquidator of the company on 6 March 2009. The role of the Provisional Liquidator is to protect and preserve the assets and financial records of the company.

3. The Insolvency Service administers the insolvency regime investigating all compulsory liquidations and individual insolvencies (bankruptcies) through the Official Receiver to establish why they became insolvent.

4. The Insolvency Service carries out confidential enquiries on behalf of the Secretary for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory Reform through Companies Investigation Branch. The Service also authorises and regulates the insolvency profession; deals with disqualification of directors in corporate failures; assesses and pays statutory entitlement to redundancy payments when an employer cannot or will not pay employees; provides banking and investment services for bankruptcy and liquidation estate funds; and advises ministers and other government departments on insolvency law and practice.

5. All public enquiries concerning the affairs of the company should be made to: The Official Receiver, Public Interest Unit, PO Box 326, 17 - 21 Chorlton Street, Manchester, M60 3ZZ. Tele: 0161 934 4182 Email: piu.north@insolvency.gsi.gov.uk

6. Further information about the work of The Insolvency Service is available from http://www.insolvency.gov.uk

7. Media enquiries should be directed to: Lorna Dennis, Communications Manager, Insolvency Service, 21 Bloomsbury Street, London, WC1B 3QW. Telephone: 020 7637 6279, or Ade Daramy, Press Officer on 020 7596 6187.

Lawbird Lawyer
03-11-2009, 06:47 PM
UK efficiency at its highest degree, good.

Unregistered
03-16-2009, 01:02 PM
this may be of interest . . .

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/1/business-news/21466/scam-company-wound-up-in-public-interest

Lawbird Lawyer
03-16-2009, 05:35 PM
I always found it strange they did not come over to this forum to defend their good corporate name. I guess they must have known better.

An alarm bell always rings off when companies don't stand up to the boards to defend themselves from serious accusations.

But then again, there are other companies who are always overeager to threaten with libel in public forums when their name -or their newly crafted incarnation- are mentioned negatively, and justly so.

As we say in Spanish, mismos perros con distintos collares.

Unregistered
04-06-2009, 07:16 PM
I was approached by European Mediation about the ( worthless) shares that I bought through the Emerging Equity Group. Fortunately I did not take up their offer to act for me. I now have been approached by a company called Mis-sold investments. They are based in Chertsey Surrey. As far as I can tell the website was created in March this year. I am very dubious about this outfit and will not proceed unless I can get more comfort- has anybody else been contacted by them or have any more info about them?

magill
04-26-2009, 07:32 PM
European mediation is a well known scam company based in Fuengirola spain

turnera
05-28-2009, 12:08 AM
Hi Simon

Did you get any further ? I am in a similar position having invested via IAP.

Might be good to catch up

Unregistered
07-13-2009, 04:13 PM
My wife and I have had several cold calls in the evening .Another major Scam firm is Glovista red they are now suspended by The Ministry Of Justice, because they are the same Mangement and staff /team from Day Cooper Adams ltd who also lost their licence from the MOJ and have been now closed down.Beware they are using different trading names to continue to fool the MOJ and continue to rip off and scam more victims with financial claims,timeshare resales,rentals and more based in the costa del sol ,fuengirola (Spain) .Any victims stories post here to help others.If You have been ripped off call the MOJ they will help you get your money back ,Do it Now before it is to late.
J Bennett ,Norwich.

Unregistered
01-21-2010, 03:57 PM
Has anyone had any dealings with the above company? They are based in Lincoln. The manager is a Chris Lloyd. They are offering to recover monies paid by me to a "Cashback" operation. However I have to pay 15% of the possible recovery up front to cover the costs of a Tracing agency called Conflict International. I just wonder if I am throwing more money away.

Unregistered
08-09-2010, 08:44 PM
Hi - has anyone been contacted by litimed.com? I have just been contacted by this company tonight and upon doing some further research on the internet have come accross this forum thread and everything on it is exactly as litimed were describing to me on the telephone. Is this the same company just reinvented under a different name?

PSW
08-20-2010, 10:00 AM
We too have just been contacted by Litimed and are asking questions as it all seems too good to be true. Patter is identical to European Mediation except that we are being told that "Instant Access and Inside Track have been denounced for Fraud and Misselling which allows us to claim any payments made direct to them from a European Fund. 10% upfront into an Escrow Account, (refunded if case is successful) - All cases thus far have been successful using European Fund set up from the sale of assets of Fraudulent companies. 8% charge for handling case."

Mr. Terry White sounds very convincing and plausible but we are asking questions about the Act/Legislation under which we can make our claim, the License Number of the Escrow Company and where he got our details from? It will be interesting to see the reply. We do not believe this is a bona fide company and say BEWARE.

Lawbird Lawyer
08-20-2010, 11:28 AM
Dear Sir or Madam

I hadn't heard the "claim-from-the-European-Compensation-Fund" sales patter since I replied to this thread in 2008 on the now defunct UK company "European Mediation".

I refer you to my posts, number 5 and 24, on this very thread.

The EU Directive which is often (mis) quoted is 97/9.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31997L0009:EN:HTML

This applies to, as the definitions within the Directive clearly state, to:

i) "investment firms" as defined by Directive 93/22/EEC
(http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/internal_market/single_market_services/financial_services_banking/l24036c_en.htm)
ii) or as "credited institutios" as defined by Directive 93/22/EEC
(http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/internal_market/single_market_services/financial_services_banking/l24036c_en.htm)

Not meaning to be pedantic or bore you to tears, basically the gist of the matter is that said investment institutions must be registered within the appropriate competent Investment Authorities within each EU Member State so its investors are eligible to opt for the protection of this European Investment Compensation Fund scheme.

In Spain that job falls on the CNMV (http://www.cnmv.es/index.htm) (which stands for Comisión Nacional del Mercado de Valores). This is Spain's equivalent to our FSA (http://www.fsa.gov.uk/).

A company set up with the purpose of misleading and profiting from gullible would-be-investors at no time would submit a detailed dossier to the CNMV (relevant Financial Authority for Spain) which will weed out and monitor them to ensure all the following is met:

1. The investment firm has sufficient initial financial resources for the proposed activities; (Spain has its own legal provisions on the minum capital requirements to be met dependant on the investment activity)
2. The persons directing the business have sufficient professional integrity and experience; (meaning those with Criminal Records need not apply)
3. Holders of qualifying participations are suitable persons.

So if I haven't bored you to death already and you are still with me, the bottom line of all the above is that murky fly-by-night investment schemes would rather stay out of the spot light of Spain's financial regulatory watchdog, CNMV, and will therefore be unegistered to operate in Spain in which case their fianancially mislead victims would fall out of the protection offered by the European Investment-Compensation scheme.

I.e. Fortuna Land victims would not qualify.

You do well in asking how they obtained your personal contact details as well as your full investment details. This is the key to suss out this type of companies. This sensitive information is protected by Spain's Data Protection Act. How did details held by a company that mislead investors end in the possession of another company (broadly speaking) which may now be cold-calling you out-of-the-blue offering legal services? Ex-employees? Buying & selling these "hot" data bases? Alarm bells anyone?

Please read my article which describes a certain modus operandi we've witnessed over the last decade:

Public Warning.-Scammers passing themselves off as Spanish lawyers and law firms (http://belegal.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382) - 13th March 2009

And to close, these people are charming top salesmen (and women, fairly attractive ones may I add) having prepared plausible replies to each and every question you'll make because they've been thoroughly trained; you won't ever catch them off guard. In fact, I'm fairly sure that if they phoned me I would fall for their sales patter and invest in Kazachastan as it's likely to be the next "hotspot". Or you can always play it safe and follow octopus Paul's advise whom I've now heard is branching out to give qualified investment advice. He does have a spotless trackrecord to show for it, mind you. Pitty he won't make it till the next World Cup.

Sincerely
Raymundo LarraÃ*n Nesbitt

Unregistered
08-27-2010, 11:33 AM
We have been speaking to George Gebhard of Conflict International and he too asked for 15% cash up front on a supposed water tight case for a property in Spain. Presumably Toby and George are the same person???

matty
10-10-2010, 10:24 AM
Just a word of warning - this company is/was run by a Toby Gebhard and a C.Lloyd they promise to recover money from property scams but they are another scam outfit.
They should called "Contrick International"
The firm of private detectives called Conflict International in London is not a "partner" and is also after them for unpaid bills.

I have been dealing with Gebhard for around 2 years and 8 months by phone
and emails which i have several the last email was this week 07/10/10 i paid
him up front to fight our case with our holiday club he is a very arrogant man
and if he thinks you are getting the better of him which i think i have done
he will tell you all kinds of stories and the last email on the 7/10 he told me
he would not reply to my emails anymore and has treatend me with a letter
from his barrister (some joke)my reply to him was good i will look forward
to that.if anyone wants to know more please reply

matty

mojo
10-11-2010, 07:49 PM
Would be interested to hear from you about this

Not sure if you can send me a private message
I am new to forum and don't seem to be able to send any yet

Thanks Mojo

jhamiltonsmythe
10-14-2010, 02:14 PM
I have been dealing with Gebhard for around 2 years and 8 months by phone
and emails which i have several the last email was this week 07/10/10 i paid
him up front to fight our case with our holiday club he is a very arrogant man
and if he thinks you are getting the better of him which i think i have done
he will tell you all kinds of stories and the last email on the 7/10 he told me
he would not reply to my emails anymore and has treatend me with a letter
from his barrister (some joke)my reply to him was good i will look forward
to that.if anyone wants to know more please reply

matty

Hi to all,
I came across this very informative Forum quite by chance whilst searching the Internet.I live in Spain and have been ripped off like so many contributors to these threads.
My own problems are of a different nature to most(landgrab),however I have enjoyed my fourteen years in Spain and still think its a great country to live in.
The main problems are brought about by unscrupulous British "estate agents",and sadly some Spanish promoter/builders of the same ilk.The trick is to spot them before they spot you.
I intend to unveil a few of them,the British ones anyway,on this forum.I spend quite a bit of my time now getting my own back by researching and uncovering these scam artists in the hope that it will prevent at least some of you from falling into their clutches.
Lets have a look at Mr Gebhard for a kick off.
Highly dubious individual with a background in failing to supply audited accounts to Companies House the Inland Revenue and the VAT authorities.
Note he is a director of EUROPEAN MEDIATION SERVICES in particular.


Toby Gebhard.
Director of the following limited liability companies,and their current status.

Camelot Marketing (UK) LimitedDissolved.

European Mediation Services LimitedProposal to strike off.

Probate Solutions Worldwide Wills & Trusts LimitedProposal to strike off.

Probate Solutions Executors & Trustees LimitedProposal to strike off.

Wills & Trusts Incorporating Carehome Solutions LimitedDormant Company.

Claims Management Solutions UK LimitedProposal to strike off.

Eezza
01-12-2011, 12:00 PM
We were robbed of £1,500 by "European Mediation" in 2008 (previous name : "Inventory Solutions UK"; After being scammed for £15,000 by "Club Class Holidays" in Tenerife in 2002. Has anyone been able to get their money back from these crooks ???

Unregistered
02-16-2011, 02:53 PM
Does anyone know the whereabouts of Toby Gebhard.
we would very much like to speak to him and his mate Robert Bailey

Unregistered
02-28-2011, 10:16 PM
Thank you so much for posting such informative messages as I have nearly instructed this company to act on my behalf with a dispute over a property in Italy.

Are there any satisified customers out there??

Unregistered
02-28-2011, 10:30 PM
Thank you so much for posting such informative messages as I have nearly instructed this company to act on my behalf with a dispute over a property in Italy.

Are there any satisified customers out there??

And can anyone recommend a decent (and if possible no win no fee) solicitor for Italian property dispute?

Unregistered
03-29-2011, 12:38 PM
somebody posted his number and new company - i have mislaid it - please repost

BrianBasingstoke
04-12-2011, 10:23 AM
A bit worried to read these comments, but glad I found this forum before making any decisions. Mr Gebahrd was recommended to me by a neighbour on the same development as me in Cyprus. Everyone on the site is currently at logger heads with the developer (Alpha Panareti), without going into detail we are all fighting to get compensation.

I have had an initial chat with Mr Gebhard and he seems to understand the law in Cyprus and came up with a view on where we stand. As yet I have not paid any fee for advice received. My neighbour advised that Mr Gabahrd has travelled to Cyprus and met with the developer to outline what legal case they have. Although as yet there is no resolution, but the fact that he has met the developer suggests he is at least doing something constructive.

I would be interested to hear anyone's view on cases handled by Mr Gebhard. On the face of it he does seem to know what he is doing and in the case of my neighbour has actually met with the developer and started legal process.
Also if anyone has used anyone else to provide a similar service, especially if it is in Cyprus? I am slightly sceptical of all these anonymous posts on this forum as it smacks a bit of a personal vendetta, so I would especially like any advice from a registered user of the forum. if you have specific advice or comment then would be keen to here.

Unregistered
04-16-2011, 01:31 AM
somebody posted his number and new company - i have mislaid it - please repost



CAPITAL WEALTH MANAGEMENT (UK) LIMITED
Company No. 07535390
Robert Baillie - Director

visit Companies House website

Unregistered
04-27-2011, 09:02 PM
Hi Brian

This is my first post and I'm choosing to remain anonymous until I have hopefully managed to get my money back but thats neither here nor there. Follow this trail if you will:


http://bladegroupsl.distractsonline.co.uk/property-dispute-resolution/about

Here Toby is listed as a consultant. You will see at the top right that Blade Dispute Resolutions is connected with both The Blade Group and Capital Wealth Management.

If you look here:

http://www.globalinvestoralerts.com/public_html/capital_wealth_management.shtml

and here

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/Alerts/overseas.shtml#c

you will be able to note that the FSA is suitably convinced there is something not quite right. Personally I would stay away but obviously that’s your perogative.

To the Unregistered post before Brian - Capital Wealth Management the company mentioned above is were you will find Rob Baillie (company number 07535390 type into Companies House)

Unregistered
04-29-2011, 01:26 AM
I am not a crook and am getting sick and tired of the acusations on this site.

Like every sucesful busnesman, I have had my share of sucesses and failures.

Duncan Balantyne has been to jail, Richard Branson has been bankrupt yet now they have ver sucesful busnesses.

If you have a problem with me, dont post on here and come and see me face to face.

you'd better be waving a white flag as I am not intimidated eazily.

TG

Unregistered
05-24-2011, 07:59 PM
He is now using the name george gephard and still taking peoples money

Unregistered
06-06-2011, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the advise. I was literally about to appoint Blade to sort out my issue in Spain.

Does anyone have any more stories about him/his company and anyone have any advise on lawyers you can trust to sort property disputes out? I am now going back to square one to try to find a decent company who can win my case.

Unregistered
06-23-2011, 05:13 PM
We have read this forum with interest.

We see that some of you have been victims of parting with substantial amounts of money and getting nothing in return. PROBATE SOLUTIONS WORLDWIDE WILLS & TRUSTS LIMITED has been wound up in the Court following the presentation of a Winding Up Petition by The Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills.

We represent another creditor that would like the affairs of the directors investigated. You can contact us by email at pf@chardwallis.com. We can obviously advise you further on receipt of communications. We won't charge you a penny unlike some of the companies mentioned on here.

Unregistered1
07-15-2011, 08:56 AM
Handy Toby Gebhard links:

http://www.levelbusiness.com/doc/person/uk/13158205
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process?formAction=DirectorCompany&dirNo=D13158205



Hi Brian

This is my first post and I'm choosing to remain anonymous until I have hopefully managed to get my money back but thats neither here nor there. Follow this trail if you will:


http://bladegroupsl.distractsonline.co.uk/property-dispute-resolution/about

Here Toby is listed as a consultant. You will see at the top right that Blade Dispute Resolutions is connected with both The Blade Group and Capital Wealth Management.

If you look here:

http://www.globalinvestoralerts.com/public_html/capital_wealth_management.shtml

and here

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/Alerts/overseas.shtml#c

you will be able to note that the FSA is suitably convinced there is something not quite right. Personally I would stay away but obviously that’s your perogative.

To the Unregistered post before Brian - Capital Wealth Management the company mentioned above is were you will find Rob Baillie (company number 07535390 type into Companies House)

keiron
07-15-2011, 09:29 AM
Handy Toby Gebhard links:

http://www.levelbusiness.com/doc/person/uk/13158205
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process?formAction=DirectorCompany&dirNo=D13158205

another link for Toby George Gebhard is http://www.bladedisputeresolution.com/fees bottom right of the page is his mobile number that's printed for all to see, why not give him a call

Unregistered
07-20-2011, 01:08 PM
European Mediation Services Limited was incorporated on 28 March 2007 as Inventory Solutions (UK) Limited. It changed its name to the current style on 04 September 2009.

The sole director of the Company has been Toby George Gebhard.

The Company ran claims brought under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 by people who had allegedly been sold land fraudulently and miss-sold time shares in Spain. The company also sought to recover refunds for ex-francisees of a company called Nationwide Legal Services Limited, which was wound up in the public interest on 02 May 2007. Clients were charged a fixed fee of £850 and/or a commission payment.

On 13 October 2009 the Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, in accordance with powers conferred on him by Section 447(3) of the Companies Act 1985, authorised officers of the Department to investigate the affairs of the Company. From information obtained it appeared to the Secretary of State that it would be expedient in the public interest to wind up the Company on the following grounds: -

1. Failure to co-operate with enquiries.

2. Failure to maintain adequate financial and accounting records.

3. Trading contrary to the public interest; retention of clients’ monies.

4. Failure to file accounts at Companies House.

5. Insolvency.

On 15 March 2011 the Secretary of State issued a petition to wind up the Company and the Court made the winding up order on 15 June 2011. The Official Receiver is liquidator. If you would like any further information regarding this matter please e-mail piu.north@insolvency.gsi.gov.uk.

monkey20
07-21-2011, 12:06 AM
I note that Toby Gebhard states that he is happy to have a face to face meeting with the writer of an earlier post, ha ha ha what a joke, the low life (TG Gebhard) would never show, he has an history of ''fraud recovery fraud'' if anyone wants a face to face meeting then why not try the pub that he recently took over ''The Black Horse Inn'' at Ingham near Lincoln tel;01522 730214 just in case you want to book a table, it would be interesting if he is VAT registered, it would be a first if he was, PARASITE, it will come on top for you soon Toby, mark my word, you have crossed me and I'm not happy, get ready my friend.
ps Toby or George or who ever you call yourself these days, have you never heard of spell check

Hi for what it is worth my husband is going through the court to get money back from Toby, my husbands runs his own small business, Toby ordered goods from him then despite saying time and time again he would pay for goods he never did, almost taking my husbands business under.
People may be delighted to know Toby Gebhard now has been given a CCJ. my husbands is also NOT going to give up until he gets his money.
I really hope everyone who finds themselves in this sort of position takes the action we have, DO NOT GIVE UP!! keep going justice will prevail.
This man may not have a horse and a mask and his car registration on his porsche may have the letters LAW but he is NOT solicitor.

Unregistered
08-24-2011, 10:20 AM
i am not a crook and am getting sick and tired of the acusations on this site.

Like every sucesful busnesman, i have had my share of sucesses and failures.

Duncan balantyne has been to jail, richard branson has been bankrupt yet now they have ver sucesful busnesses.

If you have a problem with me, dont post on here and come and see me face to face.

You'd better be waving a white flag as i am not intimidated eazily.

Tg
you need to get an education

Leezus
10-23-2011, 12:08 PM
hi there

unfortnately i was a victim of Eurpoean mediation and inside track (instant access properties) also. did anybody on here actually have any success with legal proceedings or any type of compensation?

thank you for your time

Leezus

Unregistered
01-04-2012, 02:41 AM
Thankfully there is a new tenant at the Black Horse as toby g left owing of course loadsa money to different people including thousands to utilities services and rent money. He never worked the place but left incompetent people there drinking away without paying and never paying anyone for goods. The manager he put in had huge wages and did nothing for them but then if so called business men are just playing with everyone else's money then they should get what they deserve.

Unregistered
01-04-2012, 02:50 AM
Toby left the black horse at Ingham in October 2011 extremely quickly I hasten to add. Guess this was when the law finally caught (or court lol in this case) up with him,

Just desserts I say

Unregistered
01-29-2012, 01:16 PM
Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Toby George Gebard following his hasty departure from the Black Horse Inn at Ingham? Would be very interested to know where is living.

Unregistered
05-13-2012, 07:06 PM
Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Toby George Gebard following his hasty departure from the Black Horse Inn at Ingham? Would be very interested to know where is living.

Try 192.com you can find almost anyone's location from this.

TonyRose
05-25-2012, 07:53 AM
This is to put the record straight. Although I am not innocent (show me someone who is) I WAS NOT GUILTY THEN, AND I AM NOT GUILTY NOW. I pleaded guilty to save my ex wife from having to face a trail which (as I know now, have won) would have destroyed an innocent womans reputation.

When you plead guilty, the Judge only sees what the prosecution presents, whether true or not, and bases his comments on that.

Unregistered
08-15-2012, 04:35 PM
Toby rents an office at the terrace, Grantham street, Lincoln.

Unregistered
03-03-2013, 10:29 AM
Hi for what it is worth my husband is going through the court to get money back from Toby, my husbands runs his own small business, Toby ordered goods from him then despite saying time and time again he would pay for goods he never did, almost taking my husbands business under.
People may be delighted to know Toby Gebhard now has been given a CCJ. my husbands is also NOT going to give up until he gets his money.
I really hope everyone who finds themselves in this sort of position takes the action we have, DO NOT GIVE UP!! keep going justice will prevail.
This man may not have a horse and a mask and his car registration on his porsche may have the letters LAW but he is NOT solicitor.

He owes my partner over £8000 pound blade dispute resolutions has now dissapeared where is this man email me at nicknjh23@googlemail.com I am going to get her money back he might think he is clever but he wont see me coming

Believe me

Unregistered
04-23-2013, 02:37 PM
He owes my partner over £8000 pound blade dispute resolutions has now dissapeared where is this man email me at nicknjh23@googlemail.com I am going to get her money back he might think he is clever but he wont see me coming

Believe me


Toby Gebhard holds 2 current appointment, has resigned from 0 companies and held appointments at 3 dissolved companies. Toby began thier first appointment at the age of 42 and their longest current appointment spans 6 years and 0 months at EUROPEAN MEDIATION SERVICES LIMITED.

The combined cash at bank value for all of Toby's current businesses is £11,081, with a combined assets value of £17,188 and liabilities of £17,000. Roles associated with Toby Gebhard within the recorded businesses include: Legal Manager , Director



Registered Details
Short name: Toby Gebhard
Year of Birth: 1964
Director ID: 913158205

Registered Address
Dairy Cottage 25 Main Road
Milford
Stafford
United Kingdom
ST17 0UL

Unregistered
02-05-2014, 06:38 PM
Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Toby George Gebard following his hasty departure from the Black Horse Inn at Ingham? Would be very interested to know where is living.

Me Too.. Also Richard Hayes Ex Blade Dispute Resolution who dissapeared.

Unregistered
06-25-2014, 06:03 PM
I too would be very interested in the location of Mr Toby George Gebard.

Connor
03-21-2015, 08:38 PM
I too would be very interested in the location of Mr Toby George Gebard.

I see Mr Gebhard is still conning people running his business again calling himself "The Blade Geoup UK", his mobile # is 07580634449
His rented office space address is as follows
Park field House
Park St
Stafford
There are also a few contact #'s as follows
01562 750387
01785 616821
01785 616823
01785 223253

Best of luck, he's as slippery as an eel

Unregistered
12-23-2015, 06:23 PM
Gotchya!

I have found him guys! TOBY GEBHARD is now calling himself TOBY TAYLOR.

This creature has stolen money from me and I intend to get it back.

He has morphed into 2 new business names doing the same thing ALL OVER AGAIN.

www.stjosephs-online.co.uk
www.harriet-george.com

His new office address:

Wadenhoe Suite,
Wadenhoe Centre,
Wadenhoe,
Cambridgeshire,
PE8 5SR

email: info@stjosephs-online.co.uk
phone: 01832 720052
mobile: 07580 634 449

Unregistered
12-24-2015, 12:07 PM
My god, thats interesting information. I have made some calls and found out that:

TOBY TAYLOR (used to be known as TOBY GEBHARD) date of Birth xxxx is now living in a rented house at:

xxxxx

He drives a Volvo with registration: xxxx

His landlord lives at:

xxx

They need to know who he really is as he has changed his name.

john12345
03-18-2019, 01:02 PM
toby taylor is running harriet george legal consultants in Lincoln:

google it.

he is rarely at his office due to so many people being after him.

20 cornhill lincoln ln5 7he

phone: 07580 634449

he is still running scams and ripping people off

john12345
03-18-2019, 01:10 PM
toby gebhard or taylor operates harriet george legal consultants in lincoln tel number 07580 634449
google it for the address.

he is still ripping people off

Unregistered
04-01-2021, 01:00 PM
He is still ripping people off. Do not give him money.

Unregistered
05-05-2021, 05:19 PM
For info, here is the latest details from HMRC VAT

Valid UK VAT number
226608019

VAT registration details
Registered business name
TOBY GEORGE TAYLOR

Registered business address
FLAT 4
8 LINDUM TERRACE
LINCOLN
LN2 5RS
GB

Unregistered
03-23-2022, 12:18 AM
For info, here is the latest details from HMRC VAT

Valid UK VAT number
226608019

VAT registration details
Registered business name
TOBY GEORGE TAYLOR

Registered business address
FLAT 4
8 LINDUM TERRACE
LINCOLN
LN2 5RS
GB

Now starring in the simpler life on channel 4

Unregistered
04-01-2022, 03:58 AM
Beware I have given Toby money for property deal of over 20k and dispite promises it looks like I'm not going to get it back, He is a crook. He has so many get rich ideas its all bullshit

ShemLou
06-29-2023, 09:10 PM
HI, is anyone still hunting this "gentleman" down?

TobyTaylor-Wanted
08-26-2023, 01:32 AM
HI, is anyone still hunting this "gentleman" down?

Hell yes I am..,anyone know of his whereabouts, he’s had a life changing amount of money from a family member!

I am pretty sure under Gebhard or Taylor he was banned from being an officer of a uk limited company previously.

Latest info would be very much appreciated

Time this bastard is stopped!

TobyTaylor-Wanted
08-26-2023, 01:38 AM
Please tell me which “property”

Any info you don’t want to put on here please send to me FindTobyTaylor at GMX . co . uk